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RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Radim Dobeš - 04-08-2026
The shape of the plant's root also reflects the form of Mount Sinai.
RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - DG97EEB - 04-08-2026
One day this entire thread will become a case study in pareidolia and confirmation bias...
RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Radim Dobeš - 04-08-2026
(04-08-2026, 09:23 AM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.One day this entire thread will become a case study in pareidolia and confirmation bias...
I am not surprised by your conclusion; the source text itself is quite elusive. However, I do see a connection when viewed in the context of the previous image. Furthermore, you can count 50 small spheres on the plant in folio f95v2 and look into the significance of this number in relation to Mount Sinai—you will discover even more.
RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Oscroft - 05-08-2026
(04-08-2026, 09:23 AM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.One day this entire thread will become a case study in pareidolia and confirmation bias...
On attempts to link to Enoch, I agree.
However, I've definitely come round to finding Radim's matching of VMS images with other sources intriguing and potentially valuable. Some of the matches are quite striking, and might give others some ideas of how to understand them and where to look.
RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Radim Dobeš - 06-08-2026
Explanation of the imagery on folio f78r.
1) This depicts part of the story of the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus.
2) The sun and moon are shown in the upper corners; the Book of Enoch states that light consists of seven parts, divided between the sun and the moon.
3) A bucket hangs above the sleeping youths in the cave, and the light from the sun and moon streams into it.
4) This divine presence sustains the sleeping youths for 200 years.
5) Upon waking, one of them, named Malchus, goes to buy bread.
6) He pays with a 200-year-old coin in the marketplace, astonishing the onlookers.
7) This is a story that symbolizes eternal life for the righteous.
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RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - rikforto - 07-08-2026
Surely we agree there are 8 people in that drawing?
RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Radim Dobeš - 07-08-2026
(07-08-2026, 12:00 PM)rikforto Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Surely we agree there are 8 people in that drawing?
Yes, there are eight people in the second drawing. This drawing depicts the scene where Malchus is buying bread with people standing behind him; these are no longer the Seven Sleepers, but ordinary people at the market—see the comments and, for instance, the scene in the stained-glass windows.
stained glass from the cathedral of Rouen
RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Oscroft - 07-08-2026
(07-08-2026, 12:33 PM)Radim Dobeš Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.these are no longer the Seven Sleepers, but ordinary people at the market
And the ordinary people at the market are all naked females standing in water?
RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Radim Dobeš - 07-08-2026
(07-08-2026, 01:52 PM)Oscroft Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(07-08-2026, 12:33 PM)Radim Dobeš Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.these are no longer the Seven Sleepers, but ordinary people at the market
And the ordinary people at the market are all naked females standing in water?
It is necessary to understand what each color in the Voynich Manuscript signifies. The color green does not represent water; rather, it denotes earthly phenomena. Blue also carries a different meaning; it typically represents celestial phenomena or water (e.g., the River Jordan). I intend to describe this color-coding system in some detail. Naturally, there is disagreement regarding the depictions of nudity and nymphs. I maintain that they represent various figures—angels, saints, ordinary people, stars, planets, and so on. Nudity serves as a symbol of purity (see Hesychasm). I understand, of course, that you may not agree with this view.
RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Jorge_Stolfi - 07-08-2026
(07-08-2026, 12:00 PM)rikforto Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Surely we agree there are 8 people in that drawing?
On You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. there are 7 nymphs in the upper pool, 8 nymphs in the lower pool.
How the upper seven (female, awake, naked) nymphs could represent the seven (male, sleeping, clothed) youths of the legend is a bit unclear to me. Which is not helped by having one of the Sleepers (not drawn on the VMS) later buy bread from eight naked ladies, which look just like the seven upper ones, in a market place that had just been flooded knee-deep. But presumably their oven and bread shelves escaped the flood by being on a higher ground, just outside the page.
All the best, --stolfi