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+--- Thread: Another good Swiss handwriting match to f116v (/thread-6011.html)
RE: Another good Swiss handwriting match to f116v - Koen G - 12-08-2026
There are no rules, but there are tendencies. The same VM scribe writes a tiny s in the "der mus del" marginalia.
RE: Another good Swiss handwriting match to f116v - JoJo_Jost - 12-08-2026
@ Koen
Yes, and the same writer uses “vnd,” “vnnd,” and “vnde” (und) in the same text—what's that supposed to prove?
That's exactly what's normal, just like the "s" in the middle being written as an "8" and as a long "s" in the same text.
There are thousands of examples of different spellings of the same word in medieval texts written by a single hand.
RE: Another good Swiss handwriting match to f116v - Jorge_Stolfi - 13-08-2026
(12-08-2026, 10:03 AM)JoJo_Jost Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Yes, there are different writing styles. The point is simply to show that the 8 can sometimes be written larger. As I mentioned earlier, there weren’t really any fixed rules. There are all kinds of peculiarities in the scripts. So the height of the 8 is not a counterargument against an “s” in f116.
There have never been fixed rules for handwriting. Even today there are large differences between letter shapes written by different persons.
On the other hand, in the writing of a given person there is (and was) some degree of consistency. So any claim is considerably weakened if it requires that the writer of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. switched randomly between "long-s" and "short-s" in his handwriting/spelling.
On the third hand, the text of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. was not written fluently. You know how I think it was written. The "a"s, in particular, look like they were written first as e, and on a second thought modified by adding the pointy "hood" and the vertical stroke. So maybe he did mean the second 8 in "oladabas" and the 8 in "palden" to be "s".
But whether we read those "8"s as "d" or "s" does not make much difference. Either way, the text makes no sense, and the handwriting style does not match any known sample...
All the best, --stolfi