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RE: A SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - MarcoP - 08-02-2026
When I see a dome of red terracotta tiles with white ribs, I think of Brunelleschi’s dome in Florence. However, I understand that this represents the biblical first city, founded by Cain, so it was likely freely imagined by the artist, even though they certainly drew inspiration from real, individual buildings (on the right, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., 1450 ca). The dome in Florence was built between 1420 and 1436, so maybe it's too late to have inspired the manuscript?
RE: A SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - JustAnotherTheory - 08-02-2026
That's a great find @MarcoP
RE: A SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - DG97EEB - 09-02-2026
Heidelberg has some nice manuscripts
Heidelberg, Universitätsbibliothek Heidelberg, Cod. Pal. germ. 471 Hugo von Trimberg: Der Renner ; 'Tafel der christlichen Weisheit' (Nürnberg, 1425-1431/zwischen 1439 und 1444) You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
There's no merlons on this one but it's a beautiful Orbis Terrarium or "Erdkreis"
Interesting to see the mix of castles and nature..
RE: A SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - DG97EEB - 09-02-2026
This looks like it could be a very interesting book for our research
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It discusses the Weltchronik which was the immediate predecessor to much of the Elsässische Legenda Aurea, Rosengarten zu Worms, Lucidarius which Lauber and the 1418 guys created..
In fact, Koen, I wonder if you could persuade her to join you on one of your videos....
RE: A SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - Koen G - 09-02-2026
Maybe, but there's the broader issue of art history vs. Voynich manuscript. Art historians avoid going on the record about it for very good reasons.
Before reaching out to scholars, I'd like to get a better idea of the swallowtail merlons in the Weltchronik tradition first. I've skimmed a dozen of them and they all have square merlons. Only two I know of have swallowtail merlons, and those are the two instances of swallowtail merlon images we know of that were presumably made north of the Alps. So I wonder if these two are related (they are both from the same area), and if that relation may be a stronger indication than the Weltchronik genre itself.
Wait, I just found another one. I'll make a new thread.
RE: A SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - ReneZ - 10-02-2026
(09-02-2026, 02:32 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.they are both from the same area
If I understood correctly that one is from Augsburg and one from Munich, this is only partially true.
RE: A SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - Koen G - 10-02-2026
(10-02-2026, 01:59 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If I understood correctly that one is from Augsburg and one from Munich, this is only partially true.
26 minutes by train (theoretically ;)
To find out the actual location of origin of these works (if it is known at all), it's necessary to consult the literature though. In the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., I mentioned that the Kassel MS is actually believed to have bene produced in Northern Italy, possibly Venice.
RE: A SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - Linda - 10-02-2026
(07-02-2026, 10:16 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hey wait a minute, do we have this one already? Scan 16.
I like this structure, it's good overall.
Another one on scan 40 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
I saw Marco's post about the dome and recognized the similarity with this one, went looking for it, then found you both already knew that they were both from the same manuscript . So I thought i would repost both images here in case anyone else goes looking or would like to see them together.
RE: A SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - DG97EEB - 10-02-2026
On the top one, have you noticed the guy on the turret? Looks like he's doing morning yoga in the nude...?
RE: A SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - ReneZ - 11-02-2026
(10-02-2026, 01:12 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(10-02-2026, 01:59 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If I understood correctly that one is from Augsburg and one from Munich, this is only partially true.
26 minutes by train (theoretically
Done that many times :-)
But what I meant is that these were quite independent places. Later, one became predominantly catholic and the other predominantly protestant, but I am not fully familiar with the historical details.