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RE: 70v - Clothing - Jorge_Stolfi - 08-11-2025
(08-11-2025, 04:35 AM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Crowns were certainly found everywhere, but they have distinctive features. Examples:France/lily, Italy/cloverleaf, Habsburg with jagged edges or teeth, another with a stingray.
Wow, thanks! It seems we can exclude France and Italy as the inspiration for that crown; and Habsburg, with the jagged edges, remains the best match so far. Unfortunately it was in use since before 1420...
Quote:I don't care what you see there, it's clear to me that the crown was there and was sketched in pencil by the author.
Fair enough. For my part, I don't care for the "pencil sketches" that you see there, it is clear to me that the crown is a much later addition by the Boobs Retracer.
[/quote]All the best, --stolfi
RE: 70v - Clothing - Aga Tentakulus - 08-11-2025
(08-11-2025, 10:21 AM)Jorge_Stolfi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Unfortunately it was in use since before 1420...I don't understand that.
In the past, however, lead was mainly used for drawing and sometimes also for writing.
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RE: 70v - Clothing - Jorge_Stolfi - 08-11-2025
(08-11-2025, 11:57 AM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I don't understand that.I mean that it does not give a more restricted range of dates for the drawing of that crown.
Quote:In the past, however, lead was mainly used for drawing and sometimes also for writing.I am aware of that.
For instance, I just saw on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., page f119v, a geometric diagram drawn in pencil in the top margin and then redrawn in ink in the bottom margin:
However, I don't see clear signs of pencil traces in the VMS, apart perhaps from some marginal notes. The faint traces, of text and figures, all look like drawn in ink with a pen -- just faded. And there there are examples that show a continuum between well-preserved brown traces and traces fading to complete invisibility...
All the best, --srolfi