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RE: Unconventional Methods in Voynich Manuscript Analysis - davidjackson - 04-07-2019

Welcome Ivkaz! I'm sure members will have lots of questions to put to you. And your English is excellent Big Grin

RE: Unconventional Methods in Voynich Manuscript Analysis - IVKAZ - 04-07-2019

Thanks, you are very kind!

RE: Unconventional Methods in Voynich Manuscript Analysis - Monica Yokubinas - 04-07-2019

(03-07-2019, 11:37 PM)IVKAZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hello friends Smile,
I am really shocked by how quickly you are informed about this paper. It is only 2-3 weeks we got the info that it is accepted. Well, I am the author Wink. Concerning to paper, yes there is (now correction is sent to journal) error in explanation, we have used FSG coding and Courier font was used only for visualization on a few figures. Sorry for that - mea culpa. Only mine. All experiments were done on FSG file. Concerning to fractals, it is there as the brief notice of the paper we are now writing in a full version. When we began to write this paper, we mentioned it as an overview however, there was no so much space for all, so we focused mainly on "complex" network basic evaluation. There is a lot of other possibilities on how to built up network from the text, but it is volume for a book Smile not for a paper. So we hope that paper will at least inspire people to follow this direction. So take it as an inspiration on other possibilities how to visualize and analyze...
I will inform your/our community via this when new papers-results  will be ready. We are going to employ AI and other methods in different ways there - well hope it will be beneficial.
Also, sorry for my English, I am not a native English speaker Sad .
Best.
Welcome IVKAZ look forward to reading your paper, as everyone's theory should be looked at, and relooked at. I am curious at how you are going to use AI, when there are variables in the language. For example, if it is a Semitic type language the word 'Ra' depending on phonetics / sound can mean either friend or evil. So when I am translating, i have to take into consideration all words in the sentence. How will the computer know the difference?

RE: Unconventional Methods in Voynich Manuscript Analysis - IVKAZ - 05-07-2019

(04-07-2019, 11:36 AM)Monica Yokubinas Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(03-07-2019, 11:37 PM)IVKAZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hello friends Smile,
I am really shocked by how quickly you are informed about this paper. It is only 2-3 weeks we got the info that it is accepted. Well, I am the author Wink. Concerning to paper, yes there is (now correction is sent to journal) error in explanation, we have used FSG coding and Courier font was used only for visualization on a few figures. Sorry for that - mea culpa. Only mine. All experiments were done on FSG file. Concerning to fractals, it is there as the brief notice of the paper we are now writing in a full version. When we began to write this paper, we mentioned it as an overview however, there was no so much space for all, so we focused mainly on "complex" network basic evaluation. There is a lot of other possibilities on how to built up network from the text, but it is volume for a book Smile not for a paper. So we hope that paper will at least inspire people to follow this direction. So take it as an inspiration on other possibilities how to visualize and analyze...
I will inform your/our community via this when new papers-results  will be ready. We are going to employ AI and other methods in different ways there - well hope it will be beneficial.
Also, sorry for my English, I am not a native English speaker Sad .
Best.
Welcome IVKAZ look forward to reading your paper, as everyone's theory should be looked at, and relooked at. I am curious at how you are going to use AI, when there are variables in the language. For example, if it is a Semitic type language the word 'Ra' depending on phonetics / sound can mean either friend or evil. So when I am translating, i have to take into consideration all words in the sentence. How will the computer know the difference?
Hi, good question, you are talking about language which we know, VM is unknown for us, so any method from AI cannot judge this, I think. In fact AI is a rich set of methods as the bioinspired algorithms (evolutionary algorithms, neural networks including deep learning), machine learning, and more than M. Minsky defined in its beginning. So if I say we use AI that means one of those methods and the task will be specific. From the business/research point of vies I cannot say details now, but promise to inform all of you when done. We use AI on the first moment to investigate some common and also if possible hidden features of the text. Our calculations will also need our supercomputer You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. because to evaluate whole VM as in our paper and compare with the same analysis on 1800 Bible's (just downloaded for analysis) we have to process such amount of text that if we were able to perform thousands of such calculations per second, then it would take 3250 days = almost 9 years !!!! If a million per second then it takes 3.25 days. Our methods will be used also to search if it possible to simulate fake of VM. Hope this satisfied you Smile .

RE: Unconventional Methods in Voynich Manuscript Analysis - raven - 08-08-2019

Sevgili arkadaşlar merhaba!

RE: Unconventional Methods in Voynich Manuscript Analysis - Koen G - 08-08-2019

(08-08-2019, 07:35 PM)raven Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Sevgili arkadaşlar merhaba!
Hello! English only please!