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RE: Four half-men awkwardly holding hands inside four concentric bands. - Searcher - 18-12-2018

I don't know whether it is significant or not, but it is interesting that the central mark of the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. diagram is quite similar to the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.of the Rosettes folio. Maybe, they are somehow related...


RE: Four half-men awkwardly holding hands inside four concentric bands. - Koen G - 18-12-2018

Searcher: this resemblance and parallels were discussed a bit already in this thread: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.


RE: Four half-men awkwardly holding hands inside four concentric bands. - Searcher - 18-12-2018

Yes, I just remind about this detail. Maybe, it can be revised with respect to the four human figures.


RE: Four half-men awkwardly holding hands inside four concentric bands. - Searcher - 18-12-2018

Ooh... I mean, maybe, it can be revised with respect to the four human figures and to that diagram of the Rosettes at a whole.
For example, if the left bottom rosette implies the South and Abyss (as I suspect), it may mean something connected to it. As I wrote in my blogpost, I think that the Rosettes scheme has some relations to legends about the Stone of Foundation (The Cornerstone) which was casted into the Abyss. Therefore I can suppose that one of the four human half-figures who keeps some ball-shaped thing can represent the throwing of that stone.


RE: Four half-men awkwardly holding hands inside four concentric bands. - ChenZheChina - 20-12-2018

This is a great finding! Four men and four circles resemble the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. of VMS well!

Unfortunately, I do not understand Latin so I cannot follow most discussion about what are written here, but two things in the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. caught my attention.

The first thing is, again, the in iin -like (see You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.) texts:

   

For me, it does not look like pure decoration or line-filler this time, because it is inserted into words. It must have some meaning. What might the meaning be?

The second thing is the logo in the top of the page:

   

For me it looks the logo of Romani People.

[Image: 1200px-Flag_of_the_Romani_people.svg.png]

But, what else might it be?


RE: Four half-men awkwardly holding hands inside four concentric bands. - MarcoP - 20-12-2018

(20-12-2018, 05:56 AM)ChenZheChina Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is a great finding! Four men and four circles resemble the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. of VMS well!

Unfortunately, I do not understand Latin so I cannot follow most discussion about what are written here, but two things in the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. caught my attention.

The first thing is, again, the in iin -like (see You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.) texts:

For me, it does not look like pure decoration or line-filler this time, because it is inserted into words. It must have some meaning. What might the meaning be?

You are right, those are Roman numerals: "Cap lxxxiiii" "Cap lxxxv" Chapter 84 and 85.

(20-12-2018, 05:56 AM)ChenZheChina Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The second thing is the logo in the top of the page:


For me it looks the logo of Romani People.

But, what else might it be?

The diagram below the wheel is unfinished: all text and labels in the diagram are missing, even if the layout was clearly planned to have them (compare with the Cava de' Tirreni manuscript). A first possibility is that this smaller wheel also was meant as a diagram whose labels were never added. Alternatively, the pointing gestures of the two standing people below the wheel could suggest that it represent the sun.


RE: Four half-men awkwardly holding hands inside four concentric bands. - ChenZheChina - 20-12-2018

(20-12-2018, 09:13 AM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.You are right, those are Roman numerals: "Cap lxxxiiii" "Cap lxxxv" Chapter 84 and 85.

Thanks, Marco. I did not see the / of X as they were too thin Confused 

(20-12-2018, 09:13 AM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The diagram below the wheel is unfinished: all text and labels in the diagram are missing, even if the layout was clearly planned to have them (compare with the Cava de' Tirreni manuscript). A first possibility is that this smaller wheel also was meant as a diagram whose labels were never added. Alternatively, the pointing gestures of the two standing people below the wheel could suggest that it represent the sun.

I see, so the wheel-like object might be an unfinished sun.


RE: Four half-men awkwardly holding hands inside four concentric bands. - Koen G - 20-12-2018

The Sun symbol and Romani flag are likely similar because they both bring to mind the wheel of a cart. I don't know whether this is intentional for the Sun, but one can see how the symbolism would apply as its wheels along its track in the sky.


RE: Four half-men awkwardly holding hands inside four concentric bands. - ChenZheChina - 20-12-2018

And the wheel-like symbol has 12 major parts (split by black lines) and each of major parts is further split into two minor parts (split by red lines), which makes it really a good candidate of Sun. One day has 24 hours or 12 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., and in some languages (like Chinese and Japanese) day and sun can be the same word.


RE: Four half-men awkwardly holding hands inside four concentric bands. - Searcher - 20-12-2018

(20-12-2018, 10:57 AM)ChenZheChina Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.And the wheel-like symbol has 12 major parts (split by black lines) and each of major parts is further split into two minor parts (split by red lines), which makes it really a good candidate of Sun. One day has 24 hours or 12 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., and in some languages (like Chinese and Japanese) day and sun can be the same word.

The center of that wheel is divided into three parts, as in tripartite globe, but those lines seem to remain as a light  draft.