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RE: Herbal ms Florence 106 (1400 ca) - DG97EEB - 25-12-2025
(25-12-2025, 02:59 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Play the ball not the man(25-12-2025, 02:09 PM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I do use em dashes
It's not only the em dash...
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RE: Herbal ms Florence 106 (1400 ca) - nablator - 25-12-2025
(25-12-2025, 03:20 PM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Play the ball not the man
Gemini is not a man. If we allow this, very soon we will have 50 bots flooding the forum.
RE: Herbal ms Florence 106 (1400 ca) - DG97EEB - 25-12-2025
(25-12-2025, 03:49 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(25-12-2025, 03:20 PM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Play the ball not the man
Gemini is not a man. If we allow this, very soon we will have 50 bots flooding the forum.
Let's be clear. You have decided with zero evidence that I've written something AI generated, without by the way engaging at all with my views, and therefore extrapolated broadly. That's fine, but it's also why there are many on here who don't think this forum is particularly welcoming. I offered a personal opinion, I didn't claim to have translated anything, and I'm not chucking AI slop in. My opinion happens to be orthogonal to the established view, but it's not like I've said it's Swahili with some made up AI generated crap. I've simply said I don't think it's translatable because it's a personal code thats used for a very specific purpose. By this point I wouldn't have thought it was that controversial, honestly.
RE: Herbal ms Florence 106 (1400 ca) - nablator - 25-12-2025
(25-12-2025, 03:59 PM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(25-12-2025, 03:49 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(25-12-2025, 03:20 PM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Play the ball not the man
Gemini is not a man. If we allow this, very soon we will have 50 bots flooding the forum.
Let's be clear. You have decided with zero evidence that I've written something AI generated, without by the way engaging at all with my views, and therefore extrapolated broadly. That's fine, but it's also why there are many on here who don't think this forum is particularly welcoming. I offered a personal opinion, I didn't claim to have translated anything, and I'm not chucking AI slop in. My opinion happens to be orthogonal to the established view, but it's not like I've said it's Swahili with some made up AI generated crap. I've simply said I don't think it's translatable because it's a personal code thats used for a very specific purpose. By this point I wouldn't have thought it was that controversial, honestly.
I am just pointing out that you're posting AI-generated texts. The moderators know how to get reliable evidence if they want. Sure, it could be worse, it usually is much worse when it includes hallucinations and many unsupported claims. I have nothing against "your" opinions. Nothing at all.
RE: Herbal ms Florence 106 (1400 ca) - oshfdk - 25-12-2025
(25-12-2025, 03:59 PM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Let's be clear. You have decided with zero evidence that I've written something AI generated, without by the way engaging at all with my views, and therefore extrapolated broadly. That's fine, but it's also why there are many on here who don't think this forum is particularly welcoming. I offered a personal opinion, I didn't claim to have translated anything, and I'm not chucking AI slop in. My opinion happens to be orthogonal to the established view, but it's not like I've said it's Swahili with some made up AI generated crap. I've simply said I don't think it's translatable because it's a personal code thats used for a very specific purpose. By this point I wouldn't have thought it was that controversial, honestly.
Just for the record, I came to the same conclusion, that your effort is likely not only LLM-assisted, but probably LLM-produced, the tell-tale sign is the use of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..
However, I don't really care and I don't mind talking to people that use LLM to refine or generate ideas, as long as they express some coherent views and can explain what they mean.
What does it mean specifically "if the text functions more as a mnemonic or procedural scaffold than as language". Are there any historical examples of medieval books with the text serving as procedural scaffold? Why would a custom script be designed for this?