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RE: Label grammar is similar to that of the main text - Davidsch - 07-10-2016

thread subject "Text Label grammar is similar to that of the main text"

Perhaps it first needs a definition of what is Voynese grammar and what is the definition of labels in the VMS.

RE: Label grammar is similar to that of the main text - david - 08-10-2016

Grammar is used here as shorthand for the predictability of letters within a word.
Labels is the usual name for single or occasionally double words written in isolation next to an illustration.

In essence, what I am saying is that the predictability of letters within the labels is similar to that of any word chosen from the main body of text.

In other words - labels have been created using the same schema as that used for words in the main body text. Labels aren't different from the main block of text.

RE: Label grammar is similar to that of the main text - Anton - 08-10-2016

The following revision would be free from "grammar":

"The observed inner structure of labels is in concordance with that of the vords of the main corpus"

Instead of "vords", "tokens" can be used.

I agree that "labels" is a widespread term and does not need to be clarified.

RE: Label grammar is similar to that of the main text - Davidsch - 08-10-2016

My research shows visually that the labels, as defined, 
follow the same rules for the letters in the remainder of the text that are not labels, with some exceptions:

  • 'a' occurs proportionally more in the "label text"

  • the 'q'  (only posA) occurs much lesser in the "label text"

  • the 'h' occurs much lesser in the "label text"

  • the 't'  on posB is higher in the "label text"
You can check by You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. "CAB NST" &  "CAB labels only".

RE: Label grammar is similar to that of the main text - david - 09-10-2016

Cheers Davidsch, I hadn't spotted that post of yours yet. I've added it to the "further reading" of my main post. However, are you comparing the labels to Currier A, Currier B or both?

I've changed the statement to read:
  • The predictability of glyph placement within label tokens is in concordance with that of tokens in the main corpus
Which means the same but avoids the contentious use of the word morpheme.

RE: Label grammar is similar to that of the main text - Davidsch - 11-10-2016

I made a definition of what i understand are labels, and what is text. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. You can download everything as well.

If you take the TT transcription + Rosette page you have the entire CAB txt. It stands for CAB = Currier A+B.

The Labels are everything that are not Paragraphs as defined by TT

Furthermore downloadable xls files for:
  • entire CAB text with You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (labels removed)

  • entire CAB text You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (paragraphs removed)


RE: The predictability of glyphs in labels agrees with that of vords - Anton - 10-11-2016

Somehow I missed the poll and also I failed to discuss the statement in detail, but looks like this one passed with low attendance. Smile