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RE: Arabic very close magic book called Shams Al Maaref شمس المعارف الكبرى - Radim Dobeš - 10-08-2026
I am glad this thread was started. To avoid biasing the discussion with my own ideas right away, I will present a single example to begin with: a connection between the VMS and this Arabic book of magic. I could write a lengthy post about this, but for now, I will simply state that the VMS contains protective talismans and seals associated with white angelic magic (drawing on not only Arabic but also Persian, Coptic, Jewish, and Ethiopian traditions). What unites them all is the use of Solomonic grids. The words are rendered in angelic (or jinn) characters, and the images serve as talismans (featuring anthropomorphic and zoomorphic forms).
RE: Arabic very close magic book called Shams Al Maaref شمس المعارف الكبرى - JoJo_Jost - 10-08-2026
But even that is just a form of pareidolia. At first glance, the images look similar, but upon closer inspection, they no longer do.
1. In the VMS, something extends beyond the circle, and that seems to be a key feature; the narrowing appears to represent something like perspective. In the Arabic circles, all the triangles remain within the circle.
2. The VMS has 8 semicircles, while the Arabic circles have only 4
3. The triangles in the Arabic circles start on the circle itself, while in the VMS they start on the semicircles.
4. In the center, the VMS contains additional drawings that are missing from the Arabic circles.
5. The triangle was obviously started at the center of the circle; this is also not the case in the VMS.
You should focus not only on the similarities but also on the differences; that would be more scientific....
RE: Arabic very close magic book called Shams Al Maaref شمس المعارف الكبرى - Radim Dobeš - 10-08-2026
(10-08-2026, 07:28 AM)JoJo_Jost Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.But even that is just a form of pareidolia. At first glance, the images look similar, but upon closer inspection, they no longer do.
1. In the VMS, something extends beyond the circle, and that seems to be a key feature; the narrowing appears to represent something like perspective. In the Arabic circles, all the triangles remain within the circle.
2. The VMS has 8 semicircles, while the Arabic circles have only 4
3. The triangles in the Arabic circles start on the circle itself, while in the VMS they start on the semicircles.
4. In the center, the VMS contains additional drawings that are missing from the Arabic circles.
5. The triangle was obviously started at the center of the circle; this is also not the case in the VMS.
You should focus not only on the similarities but also on the differences; that would be more scientific....
Yes, everything you wrote is true. However, that is merely a superficial description of the visual differences. This initial visual analysis should not, however, be a reason to stop exploring deeper connections. We need to investigate further whether this diagram is merely a template—given that the book serves as a guide for constructing talismans—or if it is intended for a specific purpose. It could be modified for a different objective. The VMS author might have used this guide to create a unique talisman, and that is where I see a promising avenue for further exploration.
RE: Arabic very close magic book called Shams Al Maaref شمس المعارف الكبرى - Koen G - 10-08-2026
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