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RE: Zodiac 101 - pjburkshire - 16-02-2026
(16-02-2026, 01:58 PM)Jorge_Stolfi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(16-02-2026, 01:11 PM)pjburkshire Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I'm still trying to figure out the baskets. I think the baskets have significance.
If you care, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is my theory about those tubs/basket/barrels. Those very convenient Pillsbury Nymph-In-A-Can products.
(But be warned, it is in a heretic thread. Tinted safety glasses and gloves are recommended.)
All the best, --stolfi
(23-12-2025, 10:32 PM)Jorge_Stolfi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
I SEE DEAD NYMPHS!
Actually, only dead legs. Specifically, on f70v1, inner band, nymph at 12:00:
I think the nymphs have different meanings in different sections. I don't see the nymphs in the zodiac section as being dead. I think they are more like tutelary spirits or guardian angels (junior grade).
But that nymph on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. does look rather sickly.
RE: Zodiac 101 - Antonio García Jiménez - 16-02-2026
On some pages of the zodiac, the female figures are housed in tubes, at the beginning of the tubes that we later see in Quire 13. On f78r, fragments of tube with similar decoration are clearly visible. On that folio, the artist wants us to see the fluid, which is why the tube is fragmented.
I don't want to elaborate further because anyone who has read my thread knows my interpretation of these female figures and all this imagery.
RE: Zodiac 101 - DG97EEB - 16-02-2026
(16-02-2026, 01:58 PM)Jorge_Stolfi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(16-02-2026, 01:11 PM)pjburkshire Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I'm still trying to figure out the baskets. I think the baskets have significance.
If you care, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is my theory about those tubs/basket/barrels. Those very convenient Pillsbury Nymph-In-A-Can products.
(But be warned, it is in a heretic thread. Tinted safety glasses and gloves are recommended.)
All the best, --stolfi
I was just looking at this Manuscript again, and we have a guy, I guess in a barrell
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On the opposite page we also have Scorpio as a 6 legged crocodile..
Then flicking through, there are a lot of diagrams that look proto Voynich... Bearing in mind this is 14th century, I do wonder if a later copy might be part of the inspiration...
RE: Zodiac 101 - pjburkshire - 16-02-2026
(16-02-2026, 05:43 PM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
I was just looking at this Manuscript again, and we have a guy, I guess in a barrell
It looks like tub guy is associated with Libra (The scales of justice). I assume he is supposed to be an example of or personification of one of the characteristics that a person born under the Sign of Libra is supposed to have.
RE: Zodiac 101 - R. Sale - 16-02-2026
The VMs Zodiac is the starting point for various investigations. Regarding the nymphs in tubs, some of the tub patterns have interesting similarities with those used in armorial heraldry.
RE: Zodiac 101 - Antonio García Jiménez - 16-02-2026
The guy in the barrel is treading grapes, which is what was done during the time of the sign of Libra (September-October).
RE: Zodiac 101 - pjburkshire - 16-02-2026
I counted the zodiac nymphs. There seems to be a nymph missing on f70v2 Pisces. I've counted multiple times and I only get 29. Is there a nymph hiding somewhere that I am missing?
f70v2 Pisces Inner Circle 10
f70v2 Pisces Outer Circle 19
f70v2 Pisces Total 29 29 Pisces
f70v1 Aries Inner Circle 5
f70v1 Aries Outer Circle 10
f70v1 Aries Total 15
f71r Aries Inner Circle 5
f71r Aries Outer Circle 10
f71r Aries Total 15
30 Aries
f71v Taurus Inner Circle 5
f71v Taurus Outer Circle 10
f71v Taurus Total 15
f72r1 Taurus Inner Circle 5
f72r1 Taurus Outer Circle 10 No baskets
f72r1 Taurus Total 15
30 Taurus
f72r2 Gemini Inner Circle 9
f72r2 Gemini 2nd Circle 16
f72r2 Gemini Outer Part 5
f72r2 Gemini Total 30 30 Gemini
f72r3 Cancer Inner Circle 7 First Crown
f72r3 Cancer Middle Circle 11
f72r3 Cancer Outer Circle 12
f72r3 Cancer Total 30 30 Cancer
f72v3 Leo Inner Circle 12 Second Crown
f72v3 Leo Outer Circle 18
f72v3 Leo Total 30 30 Leo
f72v2 Virgo Inner Circle 12
f72v2 Virgo Outer Circle 18
f72v2 Virgo Total 30 30 Virgo
f72v1 Libra Inner Circle 10
f72v1 Libra Outer Circle 20 Third Crown
f72v1 Libra Total 30 30 Libra
f73r Scorpio Inner Circle 10
f73r Scorpio 2nd Circle 16
f73r Scorpio Outer Part 4
f73r Scorpio Total 30 30 Scorpio
f73v Sagittarius Inner Circle 10
f73v Sagittarius 2nd Circle 16
f73v Sagittarius Outer Part 4
f73v Sagittarius Total 30 30 Sagittarius
RE: Zodiac 101 - nablator - 16-02-2026
(16-02-2026, 09:17 PM)pjburkshire Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Is there a nymph hiding somewhere that I am missing?
No. Maybe she was eaten by a fish and only the label remained.
RE: Zodiac 101 - DG97EEB - 16-02-2026
(16-02-2026, 09:47 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(16-02-2026, 09:17 PM)pjburkshire Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Is there a nymph hiding somewhere that I am missing?
No. Maybe she was eaten by a fish and only the label remained.
Maybe she's hiding in a barrel..
RE: Zodiac 101 - DG97EEB - 16-02-2026
(16-02-2026, 06:03 PM)pjburkshire Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(16-02-2026, 05:43 PM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
I was just looking at this Manuscript again, and we have a guy, I guess in a barrell
It looks like tub guy is associated with Libra (The scales of justice). I assume he is supposed to be an example of or personification of one of the characteristics that a person born under the Sign of Libra is supposed to have.
Here's another from a copy of the same manuscript... No scorpio but that lion looks familiar...https://galerij.kb.nl/kb.html#/en/dernaturenbloeme2/page/18/zoom/3/lat/-66.17235032443266/lng/21.562495529651642