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RE: How good is your pareidolia? - Koen G - 02-08-2025
Apparently my brain refuses to cooperate when the instructions are too vague
RE: How good is your pareidolia? - R. Sale - 02-08-2025
Likewise. Apparently my halluciinator is off-line at the moment. The last one appears to be blank.
In a way this Newbold-like quest is amusing, trying to see things where they don't exist. Then, not seeing patterns where they clearly are present, like heraldry in Pisces and Aries.
RE: How good is your pareidolia? - Jorge_Stolfi - 02-08-2025
(02-08-2025, 09:41 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Apparently my brain refuses to cooperate when the instructions are too vague
OK, sorry for the bad call. Trying again, with no joking: At the indicated places in that image, do you see anything that should be relevant tor the transcription or analysis of that text, or of the VMS in general? Other than "a normal part of glyph X" or "a weirdo" or "just blank vellum"?
All the best, --jorge
RE: How good is your pareidolia? - Koen G - 02-08-2025
To me it looks like the scribe is struggling there. I like to remind people that medieval manuscripts are made by dragging a sharpened animal part over another animal's skin.
I would agree that this is not just a place where the ink didn't take - there is a clear interruption and the glyph is continued "off track".
For the bench, almost looks like they started with what should be the second leg+plume and then attached another second leg to it. My naive interpretation of this clip would be that the parchment is troublesome here, the pen stuttered and the scribe was thrown off several times.
But what do you think it is?
RE: How good is your pareidolia? - oshfdk - 02-08-2025
If we are talking about the transcription, for me D is empty space, B is a rare glyph, A and C are perfectly standard variations of EVA R with somewhat uneven ink density, but with no obvious signs of touch ups or corrections.
RE: How good is your pareidolia? - Yavernoxia - 03-08-2025
A and C are letter EVA R written on a difficult part of the parchment which has a lot of “density” that results in ink being not fully transferred to the vellum.
B is interesting, it seems like the scribe wanted to write EVA ch but later transformed that glyph into something else.
D is absolutely nothing.
RE: How good is your pareidolia? - Lordadef - 06-08-2025
So? Drums rolling…
RE: How good is your pareidolia? - Jorge_Stolfi - 06-08-2025
(06-08-2025, 07:11 AM)Lordadef Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.So? Drums rolling…
I am disappointed that so few people took up the challenge... I will wait for a few more days...
RE: How good is your pareidolia? - oshfdk - 06-08-2025
(01-08-2025, 11:30 PM)Jorge_Stolfi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Honors question: find the s in that image (not near B).
I forgot the bonus question.
If we knew for sure that s existed somewhere in this image, then it could have been overwritten by any of ds or rs or located near otcho. I've marked below all locations where an s seems possible (ignoring CLS rules). I don't think there was an actual s in any of these locations.
There is also a faint vertical line over o in ?ho.dy, but it seems to be part of several parallel vertical lines, so I don't think this is faded ink.
RE: How good is your pareidolia? - Cile cile - 06-08-2025
Sometimes I just read them like cyrillic cursive ( not much sense of it though, I guess my brain is used to switch between Latin and cyrillic)