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RE: Punctuation or junk - nablator - 31-03-2024
(31-03-2024, 05:19 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.You mean the ciphertext itself or the underlying plain text?
The ciphertexts (of the serious kind, for diplomatic letters) were a string of symbols (with spaces between symbols to separate them), without any symbol for spaces, digits, punctuation, hyphens, capital letters of the plaintext. Once the text is deciphered, you have to guess where they are.
RE: Punctuation or junk - pfeaster - 01-04-2024
(30-03-2024, 07:00 PM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is the same page from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (15th Century). Zero punctuation.
This also provides a really nice example of variations in word break conventions. Statistics gathered for the most common "words" in the manuscript would bear little resemblance to statistics for the most common "words" in the early printed text. And unless confirmation bias is rearing its ugly head, I think I may see evidence here of ambiguous spacing too, e.g., [ch,e,mauea] = [che m'hauea].
RE: Punctuation or junk - cvetkakocj@rogers.com - 02-04-2024
[quote="MarcoP" pid='58468' dateline='1711821624']
This is the same page from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (15th Century). Zero punctuation.
Although most of the manuscripts in the 15th century include punctuation, there were still some documents and even longer text without punctuation. Here are some examples from Slovenian archives.
I would also like to mention that most of the 15th century manuscripts also include many letter shapes that can be found in the VM, including u, w, z which have no equivalent in EVA. Unless the letter-shape u is recognized, the cccc or eeee will remain a mystery.