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RE: F66r question - Koen G - 05-08-2020

Ah yes, I meant paragraph marker as the letter that links the image to its paragraph in sachsenspiegel manuscripts. See for example: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.


RE: F66r question - -JKP- - 05-08-2020

Oh! I see what you mean. A paragraph-marker symbol could be anything. It was usually a Greek-letter shape or a circle and line variation, but it could be anything.


RE: F66r question - Aga Tentakulus - 05-08-2020

Yeah sure,...
Now you have 4x L next to each other.
With your "mallier" and "alle"
It's never the same.
and it's "des" just because of the dialect form.

And masher today is masen written for luck "Glück".
Glückliche aller, süss ihre feine Flamme


RE: F66r question - -JKP- - 05-08-2020

Aga Tentakulus Wrote: Yeah sure,...
Now you have 4x L next to each other.
With your "mallier" and "alle"


Aga, you can't CHANGE the letters to make them into a sentence. You have to read what is on the page.

There's nothing wrong with having four "l" letters in two words. That's the way it is written.

In English, we have "willing teller" and there's nothing wrong with that, 4 "l" letters in two words.


The ell letters are written the same as folio 116v. They have angular loops and are normal for the time. They do not look like "s" and they do not look like "h".


Quote:And masher today is masen written for luck "Glück".


It doesn't matter what it means today. What is important is what is written and it is written "mallier".


RE: F66r question - Aga Tentakulus - 05-08-2020

3x different L, never
Perhaps it means "masher of all" in the sense of "mother of all" but I have not yet found a dialectal form in this way. Or masher as maseru which means marjoram.
I am not just looking for a word, I am looking for the meaning to the lower plant.
I have a few possibilities, but mallier is certainly not among them.


RE: F66r question - -JKP- - 05-08-2020

(05-08-2020, 04:00 AM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
3x different L, never
...


There are 3x different L on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. .

Aga, if you look at the letter "a" in the main text, you will see that it is written differently almost every time. These scribes are not very consistent. They are not professional scribes.


RE: F66r question - Scarecrow - 05-08-2020

While the muß mel/del/.. sounds still possible, and the shape of ß on muß looks like it, I have mostly regarded that like the odd overwritten C+tail shape over the letter M, also the round shape over the last letter of muß is also a strange overwrite of something that is underneath, maybe y, r, as you can see some lighter shape inside the round shape that is darker, similar color to that C+tail. The real letters under seem to be somewhat lighter.


RE: F66r question - -JKP- - 05-08-2020

Maybe the last part of "mus" is not a letter at all. Maybe it's a bit of round spongy stuff, a drawing element, that happens to be near "mu".


RE: F66r question - Scarecrow - 05-08-2020

(05-08-2020, 07:45 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Maybe the last part of "mus" is not a letter at all. Maybe it's a bit of round spongy stuff, a drawing element, that happens to be near "mu".

Surely could be, but it is distinctly well aligned with the beginning of the text, mu. But like anything in VMS; cloud be.


RE: F66r question - Searcher - 05-08-2020

I always had an impression that the last symbol is the symbol for abbreviation and the Voynich glyph r
mur
I thougt about "muter", "muri".