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RE: A One-Page Ledger Method for Generating Voynich-Like Text - Dunsel - 02-06-2026
(02-06-2026, 12:33 AM)bi3mw Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I’ve been thinking about the Types/Hapax problem. Ultimately, I’ve come to the conclusion that approximately 11 words per page are likely to be filler words or erroneous words. These cannot be replicated within the model but can only be simulated using a fixed list (which, in principle, could be any list). I’m not really satisfied with this “insight,” since it ultimately amounts to an unverifiable assumption.
Oh, but my generator does replicate both types and hapax and does a pretty decent job getting the numbers close. In copy/mutate, that should be an emergent property. Not something you force the generator to do.
Calling them filler might be legitimate, even if the Voynich is some mnemonic or shorthand. But, if it is gibberish and a hoax then every word is filler and every word is... erroneous.
Wait till you start trying to get gallows right.
RE: A One-Page Ledger Method for Generating Voynich-Like Text - bi3mw - 02-06-2026
(02-06-2026, 04:00 AM)Dunsel Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.But, if it is gibberish and a hoax then every word is filler and every word is... erroneous.
Wait till you start trying to get gallows right.
Well, my working hypothesis is still that the text in the VMS is meaningful—that is, it can be converted into readable text in some way.
The gallows already looks pretty good in terms of its position and surroundings (at least at first glance).
RE: A One-Page Ledger Method for Generating Voynich-Like Text - Dunsel - 02-06-2026
(02-06-2026, 10:46 AM)bi3mw Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Well, my working hypothesis is still that the text in the VMS is meaningful—that is, it can be converted into readable text in some way.
And I'd like to agree with you. If copy/mutate does work well enough to statistically replicate the Voynich then it may give some clue as to how all those words were assembled from characters or n-grams which may then answer why they were assembled in the order they were.