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RE: No text, but a visual code - Antonio García Jiménez - 24-02-2025
Everyone on this forum knows that I maintain that there is nothing to read in the Voynich, which does not mean that there is nothing to interpret. I believe that the script is an astronomical-astrological notation, but I do not know how the symbols are combined and why they do it that way.
What I have always maintained is that it is necessary to correctly interpret the images to clearly see the nature of the script, and the most important thing of all the images is to interpret what those female figures are. To me there is no doubt that they are a representation of the fixed stars in the sky, but there has been no way to confirm or refute this. Academia, by which I mean people who know medieval iconography and art history, don't seem to be interested in the Voynich.
RE: No text, but a visual code - Aga Tentakulus - 24-02-2025
I wouldn't say that. The first question would be, do the nymphs have the same meaning everywhere?
If I put Quire 13 in the right order, it explains a lot. But do I have to look at them right away in the star oaks?
RE: No text, but a visual code - Antonio García Jiménez - 24-02-2025
I have already said that what Voynich needs are academic experts from universities around the world in medieval iconography and art history. Everything else is meaningless wandering
RE: No text, but a visual code - bi3mw - 24-02-2025
(24-02-2025, 08:17 PM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I have already said that what Voynich needs are academic experts from universities around the world in medieval iconography and art history. Everything else is meaningless wandering
An interesting statement. Would you put your own efforts in the same category ?
RE: No text, but a visual code - Antonio García Jiménez - 24-02-2025
Well, I follow the opinion of a great expert like Panofsky. The pity is that there are no Panofskys in the 21st century, and if there are they do not want to speak out
RE: No text, but a visual code - Addsamuels - 24-02-2025
(24-02-2025, 09:37 PM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Well, I follow the opinion of a great expert like Panofsky. The pity is that there are no Panofskys in the 21st century, and if there are they do not want to speak outHow do you know that a priori, if you're not an expert?
RE: No text, but a visual code - Antonio García Jiménez - 25-02-2025
Many years of study makes you an expert. It doesn't matter if it's in medicine, carpentry or medieval iconography.
RE: No text, but a visual code - Addsamuels - 25-02-2025
(25-02-2025, 12:22 AM)Antonio García Jiménez Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Many years of study makes you an expert. It doesn't matter if it's in medicine, carpentry or medieval iconography.You've been here longer than I have, and have contributed a lot more than I have, so I'd likely call you an expert witness, to some degree, of the voynich manuscript (do not interpret this as legally a witness)
RE: No text, but a visual code - Antonio García Jiménez - 25-02-2025
You can call me whatever you want. What I mean is that to solve the Voynich mystery you need to be an expert in a few things and that requires a lot of study. I have the impression that in the 20th century there were researchers with more academic training than now.
RE: No text, but a visual code - Antonio García Jiménez - 06-03-2025
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If I say that these structures in the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. represent the sphere of the fixed stars, many may look at me with disbelief. I will try to argue this. In the Middle Ages and earlier, people looked for known things to represent abstract ideas through a metaphorical procedure. This is what happens with these strange pine-cone-like structures. Medieval people conceived of the place in space where the fixed stars are found as a solid sphere studded with stars. That is, they were attached to the sphere. The familiar representation of this idea is also the wavy line that we see in other illustrations.
The pineapple is covered by a kind of tent roof, an element found in other illustrations of the VM. Its meaning is to indicate the roof of the world. Beyond it was the kingdom of God. Female figures, which are a representation of astral influences, descend through these tubes. The medieval universe was solid like an onion with its layers and the pipes are a representation of their interconnectivity.