The Voynich Ninja
Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v? - Printable Version

+- The Voynich Ninja (https://www.voynich.ninja)
+-- Forum: Voynich Research (https://www.voynich.ninja/forum-27.html)
+--- Forum: Astrology & Astronomy (https://www.voynich.ninja/forum-34.html)
+--- Thread: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v? (/thread-4470.html)

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16

RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v? - Dobri - 06-05-2026

(06-05-2026, 05:52 AM)Jorge_Stolfi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Amazing.  I even though that it was an AI-generated image and the article was AI-generated slop.  But the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. for the town does mention that complex in one brief sentence, so I suppose it is real.  How comes I never heard of it before?

All the best, --stolfi

Perhaps the image of the Balaruc-le-Vieux circulade is AI-generated, the existing circulade seems much simpler. 

One could draw an analogy with the legend of the city of Atlantis. According to Plato's dialogues Timaeus and Critias, Atlantis was designed with five main layers (five concentric rings of alternating rings of water and land and a central island).

RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v? - nablator - 06-05-2026

(06-05-2026, 05:52 AM)Jorge_Stolfi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Amazing.  I even though that it was an AI-generated image and the article was AI-generated slop.

It looks very fake.

Map: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Google maps: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v? - Jorge_Stolfi - 07-05-2026

(06-05-2026, 01:25 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It looks very fake.

Indeed, thanks!  I see two places that could be the real circulade:

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

I suppose that the plan of those round Medieval towns was based on that of the 10th circle of Hell that, according to an unfortunately lost Canto of Dante's Divina Commedia, was reserved to those who try to pass AI-generated images as real photos.   (Maybe AI now can reconstruct those lost verses?)

All the best, --stolfi

RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v? - Koen G - 07-05-2026

Your first link is some relatively modern houses in a roundabout formation. But the second one must be it: narrow medieval streets and it includes the town hall and the church.

   

RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v? - Dobri - 08-05-2026

The main issue with the lunar roundel is that the 11-fold concentric-layer design is rare and probably of non-European origin. A limited number of examples can be traced to You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. or the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. like in this You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..

RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v? - Dobri - 10-05-2026

Here is a link to the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. of the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..

RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v? - Dobri - 15-05-2026

I am open also to the possibility that the 11-fold multi-layer lunar roundel could possibly be of European origin. 

This could be an example of lost knowledge, a depiction of a fully functional and quite unconventional pocket volvelle based on the 11-day lunar-solar discrepancy that drives the entire 19-year Metonic cycle, the Golden Number, and the Epact (the foundation of the medieval computus).

RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v? - Dobri - 21-06-2026

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v? - ReneZ - 21-06-2026

One can also find the number 11 closer to home:

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

RE: Eleven Moon Phases in Folio 86v? - Dobri - 25-06-2026

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. 

[Image: 960px-Labyrinthus.svg.png]