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RE: 116v - Aga Tentakulus - 24-08-2026
I came across something whilst tidying up my data.
Another reason why I think ‘anchiton’ is a name. An example of a curse tablet.
I can imagine it might have been transcribed incorrectly.
But I’ve no idea what the words on the tablet mean either.
RE: 116v - Jorge_Stolfi - 24-08-2026
(24-08-2026, 06:54 AM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I came across something whilst tidying up my data. ... An example of a curse tablet. But I’ve no idea what the words on the tablet mean either.
My faithful lalamo claims that "Panteon" and "Anephaton" are common words in Roman curse formulas. "Panteon" would come from Greek "pantheon" meaning "all the gods", and "anephaton" would be a "magical secret name" of God, likewise derived from the Greek "anephatos" meaning "unspeakable".
But it may be hallucinating, of course. (I accidentally typed "failthful" instead of "faithful" above. My fingers must have been trying to warn me...)
Quote:Another reason why I think ‘anchiton’ is a name.
And whoever wrote the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. text may have guessed the same.
All the best, --stolfi
RE: 116v - Koen G - 25-08-2026
There a lot of interesting charm stuff in this MS: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Any German speaker want to have a go at this part? It illustrates some of the points I like to make about elements on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. belonging to the same context:
RE: 116v - Bernd - 25-08-2026
Oof, couldn't you find an uglier text, Koen?
I can barely make out a word. But it's a good combination of a charm in pseudolatin with so nim
First line:
Schreib auf drey oblatn. auf die ain
[pseudolatin nonsense], auf die andn
[more pseudolatin nonsense]
an die drittn [yet more pseudolatin max pax fax]
I can't make sense of the rest yet
RE: 116v - Aga Tentakulus - 25-08-2026
What are wafer biscuits? (oblaten)
Catholics should know this.
You need 3 of them.
Three sayings on three wafer biscuits.
RE: 116v - Koen G - 25-08-2026
Bernd: just what I was hoping for, you also confirmed that pseudolatin is hard to read
When the next person comes with a full translation of f116v, they can translate this text for us as well.
RE: 116v - Aga Tentakulus - 25-08-2026
On days when you are ill, take one in the morning on an empty stomach.
If you do not have any wafers, take a little ‘rindelein’ (‘beef or bark?’) and write the same on it. Brotrinde?
Translated according to the meaning.
max, pax, fax = goat, peace, prayer.
Just like peace, joy, pancakes.
Gleich wie Friede, Freude, Eierkuchen.
RE: 116v - Koen G - 25-08-2026
(25-08-2026, 07:32 PM)Bernd Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Schreib auf drey oblatn. auf die ain
[pseudolatin nonsense], auf die andn
[more pseudolatin nonsense]
an die drittn [yet more pseudolatin max pax fax]
By the way, I think the rest is normal Latin (though weird phrases). But these are long phrases with a single cross in the beginning and one at the end. As the crosses become more intense, we get to the pseudo-Latin max pax fax.
RE: 116v - DG97EEB - 25-08-2026
Ah yes, the Catholic practice of cannabilism.. where due to the peculiar nature of transubstantiation, the wafer literally becomes the body of Christ, and the wine his blood... Never stand in the way of a hungry Catholic at Sunday Mass ..
RE: 116v - Koen G - 25-08-2026
The same manuscript has a square charm diagram with more crosses and, I believe, more pseudo-Latin, including something in the broad "anchiton" class.
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