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Origin of the Shield Shape in the Solar Folio of the f85-86 Foldout - Dobri - 26-04-2025
The distinctive symmetric shape of the shield in the solar folio of the f85-86 foldout might have a specific origin.
A similar shape from the late 11th century is depicted in the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., written in Beneventan script at Monte Cassino, Italy.
![[Image: Rule-of-St-Benedict-script-Beneventan-Mo....jpg?w=300]](https://cdn.britannica.com/17/131917-004-7FEFFE11/Rule-of-St-Benedict-script-Beneventan-Montecassino.jpg?w=300)
RE: Origin of the Shield Shape in the Solar Folio of the f85-86 Foldout - Dobri - 26-04-2025
Notice several cipher-like letters (enclosed in red) in the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. from the late 11th century.
RE: Origin of the Shield Shape in the Solar Folio of the f85-86 Foldout - Dobri - 26-04-2025
In the attached You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. from Monte Cassino, notice the two symbols (enclosed in blue) resembling the first red embellishment and the 'smoke' in the second red embellishment in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. .
RE: Origin of the Shield Shape in the Solar Folio of the f85-86 Foldout - Dobri - 26-04-2025
The letter 't' in the Beneventan script was written "You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.".
RE: Origin of the Shield Shape in the Solar Folio of the f85-86 Foldout - Koen G - 26-04-2025
My best guess is that the big C + the black word stands for "cum omnis".
If the Voynichese glyph is like this, then it probably stands for um or un. Almost nothing starts with "um-". I guess un- is a bit more common, like "unus" and its derivates.
RE: Origin of the Shield Shape in the Solar Folio of the f85-86 Foldout - Dobri - 26-04-2025
The second symbol of the red embellishment on the right-hand side of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. resembles another letter from the Beneventan script (from the Bari Exultet Roll).
![[Image: Bari-Exultet-Roll.jpg?w=1200&ssl=1]](https://i0.wp.com/blog.digitizedmedievalmanuscripts.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Bari-Exultet-Roll.jpg?w=1200&ssl=1)
RE: Origin of the Shield Shape in the Solar Folio of the f85-86 Foldout - nablator - 26-04-2025
(26-04-2025, 08:43 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.My best guess is that the big C + the black word stands for "cum omnis".
Yes, it's the beginning of the first chapter of Sancti Aurelii Augustini De vera religione: "Cum omnis vitae bonae ac beatae via in vera religione..." You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
RE: Origin of the Shield Shape in the Solar Folio of the f85-86 Foldout - Dobri - 26-04-2025
(26-04-2025, 08:43 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.My best guess is that the big C + the black word stands for "cum omnis".Indeed, "You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view."
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RE: Origin of the Shield Shape in the Solar Folio of the f85-86 Foldout - nablator - 26-04-2025
(26-04-2025, 06:45 PM)Dobri Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Notice several cipher-like letters (enclosed in red)
Ligatures actually: "cie", "re", and a missing "h" added above the word.
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RE: Origin of the Shield Shape in the Solar Folio of the f85-86 Foldout - Dobri - 26-04-2025
This means that in the second red embellishment (below the first one which could be u or v) in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. there is a letter m.