02-09-2017, 01:37 PM
One of the plants I mentioned in post 3 is Vernonia anthelmintica, but didn't have time to include details about the plant, so here is some additional info...
The three parts of the VMS plant that especially caught our attention were the flowers (because the centers have been emphasized), the blue things (maybe fruits?), and the unusual root.
Vernonia anthelmintica flowers are violet and purple-colored flowers that are narrower on the lower part with a puff on the end and a darker indented center (the center is in shadow, making it look like an eye if you get farther back from it).
Some pics:
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The seeds are used to treat roundworm, threadworm and other problems of the digestive and lower intestinal system and kidneys. Also sometimes skin diseases and fevers.
Could the VMS root be a twisty colon? Could the eye in the colon be a tapeworm or some other kind of worm or an opening like the urethra?
And could the top be drawn flat because it's a wetland plant? (I've mentioned in blogs that some of the boles in the VMS might be associated with semi-aquatic plants with the tops being the surface of the water. I'm not sure all the boles mean this, some might mean a plant that grows from tubers or dies back, or is cut back in the fall. Just as there are a number of reasons for including snakes in herbal illustrations, there appear to be a number of reasons for including boles.)
Vernonia anthelmintica is a member of the aster family (also known as Conyza anthelmintica and many other synonyms) and most of the leaves are opposite but as can be seen from the herbarium specimen and the following drawings, it's a mixture of alternate and opposite
![[Image: 258620.jpg]](http://botanicalillustrations.org/ILLUSTRATIONS_thumbnails/258620.jpg)
Was this plant known in the west in the Middle Ages? It grows in Africa, Pakistan, India, Nepal. It might have been. Some plants from western Pakistan were on the trade routes from Roman times (not so much those from eastern Pakistan) but it's difficult to determine which ones. Some of the African plants were also, but it tended to be those from around Ethiopia and those on the north coastal trade routes.
Vernonia anthelmintica seems to match well to the VMS plant on all counts except for those blue things. They might be intended as fruits, but it's unlikely that they are fruits from this plant which has seeds like dandelion seeds. Could they mean something else?
The three parts of the VMS plant that especially caught our attention were the flowers (because the centers have been emphasized), the blue things (maybe fruits?), and the unusual root.
Vernonia anthelmintica flowers are violet and purple-colored flowers that are narrower on the lower part with a puff on the end and a darker indented center (the center is in shadow, making it look like an eye if you get farther back from it).
Some pics:
Flowers (side) You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Flower (top) You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Leaves (herbarium) You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Leaves You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
The seeds are used to treat roundworm, threadworm and other problems of the digestive and lower intestinal system and kidneys. Also sometimes skin diseases and fevers.
Could the VMS root be a twisty colon? Could the eye in the colon be a tapeworm or some other kind of worm or an opening like the urethra?
And could the top be drawn flat because it's a wetland plant? (I've mentioned in blogs that some of the boles in the VMS might be associated with semi-aquatic plants with the tops being the surface of the water. I'm not sure all the boles mean this, some might mean a plant that grows from tubers or dies back, or is cut back in the fall. Just as there are a number of reasons for including snakes in herbal illustrations, there appear to be a number of reasons for including boles.)
Vernonia anthelmintica is a member of the aster family (also known as Conyza anthelmintica and many other synonyms) and most of the leaves are opposite but as can be seen from the herbarium specimen and the following drawings, it's a mixture of alternate and opposite
![[Image: 127632.jpg]](http://botanicalillustrations.org/ILLUSTRATIONS_HD_/127632.jpg)
![[Image: 258620.jpg]](http://botanicalillustrations.org/ILLUSTRATIONS_thumbnails/258620.jpg)
Was this plant known in the west in the Middle Ages? It grows in Africa, Pakistan, India, Nepal. It might have been. Some plants from western Pakistan were on the trade routes from Roman times (not so much those from eastern Pakistan) but it's difficult to determine which ones. Some of the African plants were also, but it tended to be those from around Ethiopia and those on the north coastal trade routes.
Vernonia anthelmintica seems to match well to the VMS plant on all counts except for those blue things. They might be intended as fruits, but it's unlikely that they are fruits from this plant which has seeds like dandelion seeds. Could they mean something else?