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(22-09-2026, 03:59 PM)Maks1 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Has anyone seen this book Buch der heiligen Dreifaltigkeit ?

For example, Cod. Guelf. 188 Blank was discussed You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. 
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There are various editions of the “Book of the Holy Trinity.”
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The photo is taken from this book.
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(22-09-2026, 03:59 PM)Maks1 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Has anyone seen this book Buch der heiligen Dreifaltigkeit ?
It looks interesting. Your example shows that alchemical illustrations are diverse, yet recognizable and identifiable.
But what about the illustrations in the VMS itself? For example, I don’t see a single furnace or a single flask (except for the vessels in Pharmaceuticals).
(22-09-2026, 07:06 PM)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.For example, I don’t see a single furnace or a single flask (except for the vessels in Pharmaceuticals).

You have eyes but you don't see.... Big Grin
Yes, of course there is alchemy in the Voynich Manuscript. 

There are also deep research works in this direction. You may check the book "Voynich Manuscript: An elegant enigma " of M.E.D' Imperio:
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Also here in this blog there are very good works of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., as pointed by himself and of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. about the alchemical herbs and of other people too.

The issue, however is that this forum has no alchemical section and excellent research is scattered among other sections, like yours now in "talk".
That is why a newcomer might think it has not been considered. It has- just not in place.
(22-09-2026, 09:39 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.You have eyes but you don't see...
Sometimes, just looking with your eyes won’t be enough to see something… Wink
(23-09-2026, 04:31 AM)BessAgritianin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.about the alchemical herbs

However, AFAIK the name "Alchemists' Herbal" is a modern invention, a nickname assigned to a certain family of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. derived from some unidentified Italian original.  While the herbs seem to be invented and are claimed to have fantastic powers, AFAIK there is nothing in those manuscripts that definitely connects them to alchemy.  Isn't that so?

All the best, --stolfi
(23-09-2026, 01:09 PM)Jorge_Stolfi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(23-09-2026, 04:31 AM)BessAgritianin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.about the alchemical herbs

However, AFAIK the name "Alchemists' Herbal" is a modern invention, a nickname assigned to a certain family of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. derived from some unidentified Italian original.  While the herbs seem to be invented and are claimed to have fantastic powers, AFAIK there is nothing in those manuscripts that definitely connects them to alchemy.  Isn't that so?

All the best, --stolfi

Yes, which is why Beasley in his thesis chooses to call them magiferous (after Stannard who used the same term)
(23-09-2026, 01:09 PM)Jorge_Stolfi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.However, AFAIK the name "Alchemists' Herbal" is a modern invention, a nickname assigned to a certain family of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. derived from some unidentified Italian original.  While the herbs seem to be invented and are claimed to have fantastic powers, AFAIK there is nothing in those manuscripts that definitely connects them to alchemy.  Isn't that so?

All the best, --stolfi
 You are right that the term alchemist plants maybe comes from 16 century - Ulisse Aldrovani's " Planti del Alchemisti". 

The few herbal texts I have translated are purely medicinal- they describe particular remedies for specific ailments.
However the alchemical content is present elsewhere in the manuscript. Go to pharma pages and astrology section and you will find a lot of processes of transformation mixing etc.
Also some of the plant roots are there too.

While, there were scoundrels in alchemy - who promised kings mountains of gold and elexirs, while quietly emptying the royal treasury (they gave the alchemy the bad name); there were ones, who worked in laboratories, made experiments and recorded their results- like in Voynich manuscript. 
So the alchemy is the mother of todays metallurgy, chemistry, pharmacy, painting etc.
Another useful paper (which Diane O'Donovan flagged some time ago)..


I'm working through it.. will let you know if anything pops out..
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