The Voynich Ninja

Hello everyone,
i am new to this voynich manuscript , i have been studying it for about 1 week, i found very close patterns that this is the exact way of writing magic in the book that teaches magic in Arabic its called
شمس المعارف الكبرى
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NOTE: 

1- DO NOT USE THE ENGLISH TRANSLATED LANGUAGE 
2- DO NOT USE OCR 
3- DO NOT USE AI TRANSLATIONS 

they are all going to give you WRONG results  

try to find Arabic Originally speaker with *(FUSHA) 
شخص يتقن اللغة العربية الفصحى

then you will see amazing results including

Tables -> magic words creation ((my theory: those texts are not language they are a decode each letter equals a word that is translated))

i dont have enough resource or time to complete it fast but i am on the journy

i anderstand from the Turkish decoder claimer video that was recorded from the voynich ninja that this is not prefered to just add a note and ask everyone to participate or it could be only related to the theory writer alone that he is the only one who could decode it 


but i feel the importance of sharing this at this stage 


for example in this photo Screenshot 2026-08-08 at 5.35.28 PM attached has been recreated using open ai image generation 
the ai generated photo is in ChatGPT Image Aug 8, 2026, 05_49_02 PM.png which is absolutely wrong words for most for example in the middle its written 
ترشد
but in the translated ai generated trial is
سعيد
and many others are wrong


also in page 237 there is a way to use the *(DARK LETTERS) as correctly translated 
you can see it clearly in the image attached named Screenshot 2026-08-08 at 5.42.26 PM
so this is more a hint of why this voynich manuscript has 2 diffrent patterns *(Maybe) 





why many arabs muslims wont participate?  because magic in islam even reading it is forbeddin and can take you out of Islam as you belive that there is another power beside God power 

so if you want to find a person who have time to read the original 550+ pages of the Shamis Al Maa'rif Al Kubra book and try to help in decoding it might be a very hard task you need probably none muslim Arabic Fusha reader freelancer / free timer who can help in this decoding process and how to write using those numebrs 


step 2 could be changing those numbers letters to similar numbers and try to find the correct translations

PS: most of the arabic names in the arabic manuscript are Gin names and very hard even to pronounce for arabic speakers the translation should respect the correct way of writing them and pronouncing them to rearch or accurate results in the trial 


anyway i will try to allocate some time to help in the decrypting process if i have some time to keep reading and trying

NOTE: this is not a claim of fully decrypting or a real solution this is just a pattern that i saw and wanted to share

thanks
Dr. MJ

So, VMS is a translation of this book? Or was it created using the same method? Or is it a parody? Sorry, but I didn’t fully understand. I also can’t read Arabic.
How does your method work? How is it displayed in VMS? Does your method reproduce all the statistical characteristics of Voynichese?

Yes, I also see traces of this book in the VMS. Magical looped symbols and talismans are visible in the VMS. I discuss this in the thread about Enoch. The VMS also contains planetary talismans from other Arabic magical books. I’ll prepare a post about it. Great.

We've covered books like this pretty extensively here You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Ahmad Al-Buni and His Esoteric Model ( academia.edu )
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Ahmad Al-Buni is believed to be the author of "Shams al-Ma’arif".

(09-08-2026, 12:22 PM)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.So, VMS is a translation of this book? Or was it created using the same method? Or is it a parody? Sorry, but I didn’t fully understand. I also can’t read Arabic.
How does your method work? How is it displayed in VMS? Does your method reproduce all the statistical characteristics of Voynichese?

i think it is using the same method but not a translation of it 

they believed (its a way of creating a gates to God and using a spiritual method to communicate with other spirits like ghosts, gin, angels, and other creators to serve them and to use those talisman for there benefits )

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(09-08-2026, 02:16 PM)bi3mw Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Ahmad Al-Buni and His Esoteric Model ( academia.edu )
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Ahmad Al-Buni is believed to be the author of "Shams al-Ma’arif".

yes you are right they Al Buni book is a source as well using same methood

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in this post i am going to share a belive of how those gates are opened and how they are used 

PS: this is a regenerated image using ai tools to make it more clear only and its NOT the original illustrations but it has the main phlosophy of the beliefs 


this map could the the global cosmos 

the middle area could be a sign of God's universe العرش
there are 4 gates to it right left top and bottom 

there are 8 holders of the God's Throne 
حملة العرش


here is ChatGPT trial of explaining the image:
The First Key to the Solution: The Connection Pattern
The diagram is built according to this logic:

• One central circle is larger than the others.
  
• Eight circles form a closed outer ring.
  
• Only four circles—the ones directly above, below, to the right, and to the left of the center—connect to it directly.
  
• The four circles in the corners do not connect directly to the center; instead, they connect through the side circles.
  

In other words, we have a system of eight around one, with four gateways leading into the center. This is not a random arrangement. It is closer to a network map or a flow system: a center, gateways, surrounding regions, and then an outer circular route.
The Second Key: The Artist Mixed Three Visual Languages
Within the drawing are symbols that appear geographical: castles, walls, towers, roads, and passageways, as well as a small symbol resembling the well-known medieval T–O map of the world. At the same time, there are stars, radiating disks, and celestial forms, alongside sacks, tubes, membranes, and dots that appear organic or anatomical. Researchers have also counted 160 pieces of writing on the page, including circular inscriptions and individual labels, but the text has not yet been deciphered in any broadly accepted way.
For this reason, I would rule out three single explanations:

• It is not an ordinary city map, because the stars and organic symmetry do not fit literal geography.
  
• It is not a literal anatomical drawing, because castles, the world map, and roads do not belong to anatomy.
  
• Nor is it purely an astronomical map, because the tubes, passages, and walls appear to carry something between chambers.
  

The most likely conclusion, therefore, is that the image is a dual symbol, deliberately designed to resemble both the world and the body at the same time.
Closest Solution to the Puzzle
I believe this page represents the process of creation or formation through two corresponding layers:
The outer layer: a symbolic cosmic map.
The central circle is the center of the world, the sacred city, or the axis of the cosmos. The eight surrounding circles represent directions, regions, or surrounding forces, while the four main passages represent the cardinal directions, the four elements, or the winds connecting the outer world to the center. The presence of eight elements around a center is compatible with systems of the “eight winds” known from ancient and medieval cosmological diagrams, although this alone is not enough to prove the interpretation conclusively.
The inner layer: a map of the body and embryonic formation.
The center becomes a protected chamber in which pregnancy or the formation of life occurs. The tubes become veins or channels for fluids, while the outer circles become chambers, stages, or influencing forces. An academic study published in 2024 indeed proposed that the Rosettes page encodes sexual intercourse and pregnancy within a medical context related to what medieval writers called the “secrets of women.” This is a serious hypothesis published in academic research, but it remains a proposed interpretation rather than a final solution, because the writing itself has not been translated.
The idea that unites these two readings is the concept of the macrocosm and microcosm: the human body as a miniature version of the universe, with the elements, stars, winds, and bodily fluids all operating according to a single system. This parallel between the body and the cosmos was a fundamental idea in medieval and Renaissance medicine, philosophy, and astrology.
An Important Hidden Clue: The Page Has No Fixed “Top”
The orientation of the writing changes all the way around the page: it is horizontal on one side, then vertical, then upside down on the opposite side. This means the writer was rotating the page while adding the labels. Therefore, it may be a mistake to read it like a modern map in which north is always at the top. It is closer to a wheel or cycle intended to be read from several directions.
The Message I Think the Drawing Conceals
This is not a translation of the text, but rather a rendering of the drawing’s logic into a sentence:
The body and the cosmos are two images of a single system: eight directions or forces surround the center of creation, while four gateways carry water, air, heat, and spirit inward; life begins at the center, and movement then continues in a closed cycle.
Put more simply: the center may simultaneously represent the city at the center of the world, the womb, and the point at which order is born. The castle signifies a protected or “enclosed” place, the stars represent celestial forces, the tubes indicate the movement of fluid, breath, or influence, and the nine circles represent divisions within the system.
I am highly confident that this is a cosmic/medical network map rather than mere decoration; moderately confident that it specifically concerns creation and pregnancy; and much less confident in any attempt to identify a particular city such as Jerusalem or Milan. Computational analyses of the text have found that clusters of words partially correspond to the themes of the illustrations and to the different scribal hands, which supports the idea that the manuscript contains meaningful organization, but this still does not provide us with a translation.


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in Quran it states that they are 8
﴿وَيَحْمِلُ عَرْشَ رَبِّكَ فَوْقَهُمْ يَوْمَئِذٍ ثَمَانِيَةٌ﴾ [الحاقة: 17]
and in the middle there are 4 angles holding the Throne as in Hadith 


chat gpt link reference for the prompts + ai analysis 
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ps: this is just what they belived not pure islamic practices as those were used to be used by magicians which is forbidden in Islam.

here is a trial of classifying those plants 
each plant head COULD be linked to the correct gate 
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as they are 8 types of plants 


each type is linked to one of the 8 gateway
and each has its own spiritual magic recipe to be used so you can use the correct gate for the correct talisman 


===== CHATGPT 5.6 Traial =====
Yes. The cleanest way to make the “8 gateways + center” hypothesis work is not to invent eight planets. Medieval cosmology already supplies an elegant 8+1 structure:
7 classical planets + the 8th sphere of the fixed stars → surrounding a central terrestrial/microcosmic world.
The seven “planets” were Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn; above them was the sphere of the fixed stars. This eight-sphere structure is well attested in medieval cosmology. (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.) Al-Buni's Laṭāʾif al-ishārāt is especially interesting here because his system treats celestial forces as flowing downward through mediating levels into the material world. (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.)
So I would test your nine-rosette image as:
8 outer gateways = 7 planets + fixed stars
central rosette = Earth / human microcosm / place of generation
The mapping below is my proposed symbolic reconstruction, not an attested table from al-Buni.
My strongest one-to-one mapping
Gateway in Rosettes
Celestial power
Plant category
WhyTop
☉ Sun
7. Star-shaped & disk-shaped flowers
The top rosette itself is a huge radiant wheel. Category 7 contains flowers that literally resemble stars and solar disks.
Upper-right
✦ Fixed stars / 8th sphere
8. Rare & ornamental forms
This rosette contains a dense field of little dots, almost like a star field. Category 8 contains the strangest, least uniform plant forms—good candidates for individual stellar “signatures.”
Right
☾ Moon
3. Broad-leaved & rosette plants
This gateway is visually watery, cellular, and fluid. Broad, rounded, soft leaves and circular basal rosettes fit a lunar/moist symbolism well.
Lower-right
♄ Saturn
5. Bulbs, tubers & roots
Saturn gives the strongest symbolic match to what is hidden below: roots, depth, enclosure, heaviness and slow development. The lower-right rosette also looks unusually architectural/earthbound.
Bottom
♂ Mars
2. Upright flowering plants
The bottom rosette has sharp, blade-like radial forms. Category 2 is dominated by erect stalks, spikes and vertical growth: the most “spear-like” group.
Lower-left
♀ Venus
6. Creeping & climbing plants
Vines join, entwine, embrace and spread between supports. That makes category 6 the best morphological expression of Venusian connection, fertility and attraction.
Left
☿ Mercury
4. Fern-like & compound-leaved plants
Mercury fits division, multiplication, branching and complexity. Compound leaves and ferns repeatedly split one structure into many smaller units.
Upper-left
♃ Jupiter
1. Trees & shrubs
Jupiter is the best fit for expansion, stature, abundance and large branching structures. Trees are the most developed and spatially expansive plants in your classification.
The central circle would therefore be neither a ninth planet nor another plant class. It would be the recipient:
Earth → body → womb → garden → microcosm
depending on which layer of the manuscript is being expressed.
Why this is interesting visually
What surprised me when comparing the two images is that several assignments are supported not merely by the plant categories but by the actual appearance of the corresponding rosettes.
The top gate is almost impossible not to notice: it is a large radiant wheel. That makes a solar reading much stronger than randomly assigning the Sun somewhere else.
The upper-right gate has perhaps the most important clue. Its interior is filled with many tiny isolated marks/dots. If the eight-gate hypothesis is celestial, that is exactly the place where I would test the fixed-star sphere first. It is visually different from the singular radial centers associated with a planet.
The right-hand gateway is dominated by blue, flowing, droplet/cellular forms. That makes it the strongest candidate for a lunar/watery station.
The bottom gateway has the most aggressive geometric radial structure: large pointed wedges projecting from a center. That makes Mars a remarkably natural experimental assignment.
And the lower-right is distinctive because it contains something that looks almost like a constructed platform, grid, enclosure or machine embedded inside the circle. Compared with the organic rosettes, it feels material, bounded and heavy—which makes Saturn/roots an interesting fit.
So we get an approximate polarity:
TOP — Sun / light / radiation
↓
CENTER — generation / embodiment
↓
BOTTOM — Mars / action / penetration
while another axis could be:
LEFT — Mercury / branching / differentiation
CENTER — integration
RIGHT — Moon / moisture / nourishment
That is much more coherent than simply placing eight random symbols around the center.
And the plant categories themselves form a progression
There is another layer that may be worth testing. Your eight plant families can almost be treated as eight modes of growth:
Saturn — root → hidden foundation
Moon — leaf/rosette → nourishment and moisture
Mars — erect stem → upward thrust
Mercury — branching leaf → differentiation
Venus — vine → connection and reproduction
Jupiter — tree → expansion and maturity
Sun — flower/star → visible culmination
Fixed stars — unusual forms → individual signatures
That creates what looks like a cycle of manifestation rather than merely a botanical taxonomy:
Root → leaf → ascent → branching → union → expansion → flowering → differentiation into many forms.
If the Rosettes page is a flow diagram, the plant section may therefore be doing something much more interesting than saying “this is plant A, this is plant B.” It may classify plants according to the kind of cosmic force they embody.
Al-Buni is relevant because his esoteric astrology explicitly treats celestial influence as a world-shaping efflux transmitted into lower reality, rather than treating planets as merely decorative astronomical objects. (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.)
The 9-rosette structure then becomes especially suggestive
Under this hypothesis, I would read the entire diagram as:
NW — Jupiter — Trees / expansion
N — Sun — Star/disc flowers / radiance
NE — Fixed Stars — rare forms / stellar signatures
W — Mercury — compound leaves / branching
CENTER — Earth–Human–Generation
E — Moon — broad leaves / moisture
SW — Venus — vines / joining
S — Mars — upright plants / thrust
SE — Saturn — roots / enclosure
And there is an important consequence.
The apparently strange fact that there are nine rosettes suddenly stops being a problem. Medieval cosmology commonly placed seven planetary spheres beneath the eighth sphere of the fixed stars, with the terrestrial world at the center. (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.)
So geometrically you get:
8 celestial domains around 1 terrestrial/microcosmic center.
That is almost exactly the structural problem we started with.
I would currently rate Sun–top, Moon–right, Mars–bottom, Saturn–lower-right and Fixed Stars–upper-right as the most visually testable assignments. Mercury/Venus/Jupiter are more dependent on the botanical morphology and therefore should be treated as the next layer of the hypothesis rather than established identifications.


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please note that GPT Halicunate and its not a good source but its making things easier to be recognized as a pattern

Maljefairi, we have a rule of one thread per theory.  So I'm going to merge these three threads.

Edit:  And I've just read them after merging.  We have a prohibition against AI usage like this.  You should have seen it before you signed up.  

I'm not an Arabic speaker, but I can read and understand Arabic to some extent.

There are many non-religious (and even non-muslim) Arabic speakers, many people who have learned Arabic, and many Muslim Arab speakers who are interested in magic, so it's simply incorrect to conflate Arabic with Islam or to claim that the reason the Arabic hypothesis hasn't gotten attention is because "Muslims don't want to study magic." There's almost 500 million Arabic speakers worldwide. And in fact, the Arabic hypothesis has gotten considerable attention, it's probably one of the most studied hypotheses, and it hasn't gotten anywhere substantive as far as I know.

Aside from superficial similarities I don't really see any plausibility that Voynichese is Arabic, or Arabic encoded with a European alphabet, until there's decent evidence to the contrary. The superficial similarities that are interesting are e.g. labelese often beginning with o, like otalar, similar to Arabic ال and ا. 

But the structure of Voynichese is incredibly different. Arabic is an abjad, where word morphology consists of various permutations of typically 3 core consonants defining each semantic concept. There is no such structure in Voynichese. But even more fundamentally, basic things like the number of characters and character-level entropy seem quite different.

If one were to claim that Voynichese is related to Arabic, one would have to describe the generation process by which Arabic becomes Voynichese, and this process can't be a simple substitution cipher, it would have to be very sophisticated. I'm not aware of any such generation process that actually works with real Arabic sentences and produces valid Voynichese.