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1365-1375 (vers 1370) probably from Padua

I did the usual searches but nothing came up..

3 dragons and a dinosaur (?)

And some Swallowtail Merlons
I see both Minta Collins and Segre Rutz have discussed it previously, so Im fairly sure it's been covered here somewhere
Ms. Mas 116 is presumably just as much a part of the tradition of the Tractatus de herbis as, for example, Egerton 747 or Lat. 6823.

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Biblissima Wrote:The illustrations of most of the plants are copied from Manfredus de Monte Imperiale’s Tractatus de herbis (Paris, B.n., Lat. 6823). Others were likely painted from life (Lilium, p. 206); the animals and figurative scenes often come from the Liber medicinae de animalibus, which follows the Tractatus in Lat. 6823. The style, however—more realistic, more sensitive, and more delicate—is comparable to that of the manuscript of Guiron le courtois (Paris, B.n., ms. n.a.fr. 5243), which has been attributed to Altichieri or Jacopo Avanzi, two artists who worked in Padua before 1376–1379.

Wikipedia Wrote:Latin manuscript 6823 at the Bibliothèque nationale de France in Paris contains a version of the Tractatus de herbis, entitled "Liber de herbis et plantis", which is different from that of ms. Egerton 747. Its signature indicates that it was written and illustrated by Manfred de Monte Imperiale, an unknown author whose origin is the subject of debate. The work could not be precisely dated, and would have been written between the end of the 13th century and the beginning of the 14th century. However, the terminus post quem date of 1296 has been retained, due to the presence of extracts from Simon of Genoa's Clavis sanationis, which appeared no later than that year. The geographical origin of Latin ms. 6823 is as much debated as that of ms. Egerton 747...

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It is very, very similar to MS SLoane 4016 (not sure if this is online in the British Library again), but Alain Touwaide is adamant that the Sloane MS was not copied from Masson 116.
There are several other copies that are also very similar, some even with text.

Vatican Chigi F VII 158 has been discussed here already: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Munich clm 28531 not so much. (Sorry, I only seem to have a useless link)

German readers may be interested in the thesis of Eva Wagner: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Here's the link (no color):
Herbarius - BSB Clm 28531



Sloane MS 4016
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If you find swallowtail merlons somewhere, please post them on the main thread as well. I can't keep up with all the different threads.
Pardon my igonrance, but why is a French herbal from Padua?
Latin herbal from Italy in French library would be more accurate.
Indeed.. I wrote french herbal and then after checked the description..