The Voynich Ninja

Has anyone done entropy tests on Franco-Venetian?

Quote:Mark and Rafal, if you could phrase these in concrete tasks (which manuscripts specifically, etc), I will add them to a thread I'll make in the curated subforum.

All right, here it goes.

I am looking for two illustrated copies of De Balneis Puteolanis, to the best of my knowledge not available online

1)
Parma Pal. 236 from Biblioteca Palatina Parma:
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There is a chance that it is fully copied in this book by Marianna Menozzi:
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2)
Napoli XX.C.5 from Società Napoletana di Storia Patria
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I was able only to find single pages online.
So if someone will be able to visit a proper library in Parma or Naples, maybe he could take photos of all the pages?
If you find it online, then it is okay too 

(22-07-2026, 02:10 PM)Rafal Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Quote:Mark and Rafal, if you could phrase these in concrete tasks (which manuscripts specifically, etc), I will add them to a thread I'll make in the curated subforum.

All right, here it goes.

I am looking for two illustrated copies of De Balneis Puteolanis, to the best of my knowledge not available online

1)
Parma Pal. 236 from Biblioteca Palatina Parma:
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There is a chance that it is fully copied in this book by Marianna Menozzi:
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2)
Napoli XX.C.5 from Società Napoletana di Storia Patria
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I was able only to find single pages online.
So if someone will be able to visit a proper library in Parma or Naples, maybe he could take photos of all the pages?
If you find it online, then it is okay too 

Unfortunately the complete PDF version of Pietro da Eboli's "De Euboicis aquis" is not available for free download due to publishing rights associated with recent editions of the book.

(22-07-2026, 02:10 PM)Rafal Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Quote:Mark and Rafal, if you could phrase these in concrete tasks (which manuscripts specifically, etc), I will add them to a thread I'll make in the curated subforum.

All right, here it goes.

I am looking for two illustrated copies of De Balneis Puteolanis, to the best of my knowledge not available online

1)
Parma Pal. 236 from Biblioteca Palatina Parma:
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Not sure if this one is from that MS but I find it very interesting.. a different architectural style from others I've seen

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(22-07-2026, 07:21 PM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Not sure if this one is from that MS but I find it very interesting.. a different architectural style from others I've seen

The Bibliotheca Angelica copy is a different copy. I am only aware of individual images, not a complete scan, but I have not looked for some years. There was a recent post with quite a good number of links to complete copies.

It's possible that the following page shows the manuscript. Unfortunately, the page won't load for me ( timeout).

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A facsimile You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Quote:I am only aware of individual images, not a complete scan, but I have not looked for some years.

Things have changed 

Here is the best link for Ms 1474 Angelica, click "Galleria Immagini" at the page bottom
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You can find 11 versions of De Balneis in my browser:
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The browser contains links to their online versions.

Or use online version converted by oshfdk member of our forum available here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Quote:Unfortunately the complete PDF version of Pietro da Eboli's "De Euboicis aquis" is not available for free download due to publishing rights associated with recent editions of the book.

Fabrizio, which book do you have in mind?
Any copy of De Balneis Puteolanis is 500 years old or more so obviously copyright doesn't apply here 

And it would be helpful for me if someone had access to the book:

Marianna Menozzi
Il ms. Palatino 236: Nomina et virtutes balneorum seu de balneis Puteolorum et Baiarum
Parma, Artegrafica Silva 2006
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Yeah, I know I could buy it but maybe someone wishes to do it instead of me 

Just saw this article from a couple of months ago....
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It's about how they uses AI to break the Borg Cipher You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Although that turned out to be a simple substitution.. Still, worth getting in touch with the team?