(10-07-2026, 10:01 AM)oshfdk Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (10-07-2026, 09:42 AM)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Not necessarily complicated (and not comparable to the Visener), but simply redundant. In the case of the Visener, we can apply the key and quickly get the text, but according to my version, the VMS cipher does not have mathematical rigor, and it does not have any specific algorithm, encryption could be done manually.
Could you explain simply in 2-3 sentences how the VMS cipher works in your hypothesis? Maybe even if you could show it with an example, suppose we want to encode "WHAT THE MANUSCRIPT SAYS ABOUT THE PLANTS AND STARS IS A RIDDLE WRAPPED IN A MYSTERY INSIDE AN ENIGMA", how would we do this?
In fact, I can only demonstrate how it roughly works.
First, let's create a cipher alphabet: A = I, B = II... Z = XXV (U=V=XXI).
We encrypt and align the letters in order:
XXII, XX, VIII, I / XX, VIII, V / XXI, XX, XIX, XVIII, XVI, XIV, XIII, IX, III, I / XXIV, XIX, XIX, I / XXI, XX, XV, II, I / XX, VIII, V / XX, XIX, XVI, XIV, XII, I / XIV, IV, I / XX, XIX, XIX, XVIII, I / XIX, IX / I / XVIII, XII, IX, V, IV, IV / XXII, XVIII, XVI, XVI, V, IV, I / XIV, IX / I / XXIV, XXIV, XX, XIX, XVIII, XIII, V / XIX, XIV, IX, IX, V, IV / XIV, I / XIV, XIII, IX, VII, V, I
We introduce a small alphabet: I =
i, V =
a, X =
e, XX =
ch (if separately, then
sh), XV =
o, IV =
ok/ot, IX =
ol/or, VI
= da; I
= ol, II
= or (XXII = ch-or)
chor sh daiin i / sh daiin a / chol sh eor edaiin oi eol eiin ol iin i / chok eol eol i / chi sh ea ii i / sh daiin a / sh eor oi eok ein i / eot ot i / sh eor eor oiin i / eor or / i / oiin ein or a ia a / chin oiin oi oi a ia i / eot or / i / chok chot sh eol oiin eiin a / eol eok ol or a ia / eok i / eok eiin ol ain (I encrypted it manually, there may be errors. The last
i =
n).
To decipher this text, you first need to substitute the first alphabet, then the alphabet with numbers and solve the anagrams. You can assign this task to a computer. In my version, this encryption is called
primary.
But let's try to embellish this text a little, for example, combine beautiful words a la sheor and use VMS symbols that are not in the alphabet:
chor sh daiin im / shedaiin am / chol sheor edaiin oi eol eiin iin im / chokeo l eol im / chi sh eaiin/ sh daiin am / sheor oi eo kein im / eot ot im/ sheor eor oiin im / eor or / otchy im / oiin ein ora ia am / chin oiin oioia iaim / e otor / kaiin im / chok chot sheol oiin eiin am / eol eok olor a iam / eok i / eok eiin olain /
I chose
m for the end of the line, and in the parts where there was only
i, I added one meaningless word each. In my theory, this is called
secondary encryption.
This is actually a very, very simple example. It is unlikely that you will have difficulty deciphering the second text. But I can complicate it, for example, by adding more meaningless words or meaningless letters (in order to eliminate type
ia deformities). In the process, I can create so many internal rules that you, knowing the alphabet but not knowing the rules I use, will never be able to decipher this text.
(10-07-2026, 10:47 AM)Mauro Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view."anagrams + substitutions is about as safe as a one-time pad"
Don't take everything so literally
