(19-04-2026, 11:24 PM)Bernd Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.By the way, voynich.nu states:
Quote:The parchment was identified in 2014 by a team at the University of York to be made of calf skin, so it is vellum in the strict sense of the word.
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Rene, do you have a source for this? You only list a methodological paper (Fiddyment et al. 2015) but where can we find the analysis itself? What is it now? Young Calf or older animals? Bad source material or bad processing?
I possibly need to review that part of the page, but here are the facts as I know them:
- the tests done by the university of York determined the species of the animal, not its age. The actual report said "cow". These tests were requested by Sterling lab (Yale) and/or Beinecke, and I was in copy of some of the exchanges. I guess that the formal publication of these results is the Yale photo facsimile.
- I wrote calf, not cow, because parchment is usually made from younger animals. I cannot recall any instance where I saw parchment referred to as cow parchment. (Again, the York result was reporting the species).
- The question parchment/vellum is old, and will probably never stop. Whether a particular sheet of parchment
should be called vellum, depends on the country, and on the time period. Usage in the UK and the US is different, and present usage is different from past usage. This includes cases where parchment not from calves was called vellum, which now most people agree is incorrect. I did not make this up. I was told exactly this by the very respectable MS expert Abigail Quandt of the Walters, back in 2014. I am also not trying to contradict Lisa here. I understand that modern usage (at least in the US but perhaps elsewhere), is to reserve the term vellum for high-quaity parchment from calves. I try to consistently use "parchment", and I was a bit surpised to see this case of "vellum" quoted from my web site ...
- While the parchment quality of the MS is low, it has been prepared with significant care, because the flesh and hair sides of the leaves in the Voynich MS can barely be distinguished. This was attempted by several experts again in 2014.
On that last point, regardless whether the raw parchment material was raised by the authors, or bought, they would have had limited choice. Their own stock or affordable parchment. However, it would be their choice how much effort they put into preparing it, and apparently they cared enough to do that thoroughly.