09-10-2025, 12:54 PM
09-10-2025, 12:54 PM
09-10-2025, 01:36 PM
Looks like someone having fun with their theory on a subreddit they made as some kind of blog. What is it you find interesting about it?
09-10-2025, 02:14 PM
(09-10-2025, 01:36 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Looks like someone having fun with their theory on a subreddit they made as some kind of blog. What is it you find interesting about it?
I think the way it's written got me interested. It's very detailed and it looks promising. But since I don’t have the skills or time to work with it myself, I figured this forum might find it useful.
09-10-2025, 04:23 PM
It looks like an AI dump....
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Quote:**5. Narrative sequence:**
* You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is a **liminal folio,** part conclusion, part commentary.
* Voynichese terms act as markers or code-keys embedded in ritual phrasing.
* Drawings amplify the symbolism: guardian animal, witness figure, offering.
* Rather than random scribbles, it reads as a **meta-textual closure**, possibly a charm or mnemonic aide for interpreting the manuscript.
09-10-2025, 04:37 PM
Yes, I think this was the one that was posted on the Voynich reddit site a week or so ago and the person claimed it wasn't AI slop. But it is pure AI slop, including making up Voynichese words.
09-10-2025, 05:00 PM
(09-10-2025, 04:37 PM)tavie Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Yes, I think this was the one that was posted on the Voynich reddit site a week or so ago and the person claimed it wasn't AI slop. But it is pure AI slop, including making up Voynichese words.
I've send the creator a message if he could clarify. If he/she responds I'll post it here.
09-10-2025, 06:58 PM
Got a response and it's not what I was expecting at all. I'll post it in text as I dont know how to upload a screenshot. If someone can tell me I'll post it as well.
Icy-Tradition7656
"Hi thanks for reaching out!
I'll clear this up right now.
Clusters like “olad otolshade” were conceptual examples to illustrate how the framework interprets functional roles of EVA words. I should have made that clearer, that’s on me, and I’ll edit the two posts where olad or otolshade appears to clarify. The exact phrase doesn’t appear in the manuscript, but the framework logic still applies: repeating clusters near diagrams, their placement, and visual cues determine their functional role. The interpretation process works the same way even if you replaced the whole transliteration with a made-up language, structure is key.
Everything you see comes out of the Skeleton Key Framework, which I built myself from scratch and had to forcibly publicly publish because people were stealing my work. I put raw data through it, interpret the results, and write it up in my own words. That’s all me. What I do use AI for is purely restructuring my full post into a format I prefer; nothing in the content is altered.
The issue is people keep calling anything they don’t understand “AI.” If it looks analytical or structured, they just assume a machine did it. There are plenty of posts/responses on the .ninja forum where even the writers/commenters don't even bother removing the AI em dashes, and that goes through just fine. But that’s not how this works. I’ve been transparent from the start; every step I post can be retraced and reproduced.
So if someone really thinks it’s “AI slop,” fine. Prove it: run the data, check the sources, show where it doesn’t line up."
Icy-Tradition7656
"Hi thanks for reaching out!
I'll clear this up right now.
Clusters like “olad otolshade” were conceptual examples to illustrate how the framework interprets functional roles of EVA words. I should have made that clearer, that’s on me, and I’ll edit the two posts where olad or otolshade appears to clarify. The exact phrase doesn’t appear in the manuscript, but the framework logic still applies: repeating clusters near diagrams, their placement, and visual cues determine their functional role. The interpretation process works the same way even if you replaced the whole transliteration with a made-up language, structure is key.
Everything you see comes out of the Skeleton Key Framework, which I built myself from scratch and had to forcibly publicly publish because people were stealing my work. I put raw data through it, interpret the results, and write it up in my own words. That’s all me. What I do use AI for is purely restructuring my full post into a format I prefer; nothing in the content is altered.
The issue is people keep calling anything they don’t understand “AI.” If it looks analytical or structured, they just assume a machine did it. There are plenty of posts/responses on the .ninja forum where even the writers/commenters don't even bother removing the AI em dashes, and that goes through just fine. But that’s not how this works. I’ve been transparent from the start; every step I post can be retraced and reproduced.
So if someone really thinks it’s “AI slop,” fine. Prove it: run the data, check the sources, show where it doesn’t line up."
09-10-2025, 08:29 PM
We don't debate AI generated theories or solutions here. You can find the reasoning in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. So that person is wrong when they say there are plenty of AI posts on the main forum here: we move everything that seems AI generated to this ChatGPTrash subforum and lock the thread.
I have no doubt that this is driven by an LLM, and it's nothing to do with emdashes. I'm not going to list all the tells in case LLMs learn from this to make their slop less detectable, but if anyone still doubts, do check out You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. of the guy's framework. Even the claim that "otolshade" was "a conceptual example to illustrate how the framework interprets functional roles of EVA words" sounds like the excuse an LLM gives when you challenge it on an error.
Funnily enough, we had someone here a few weeks ago whose LLM hallucinated "otolshade"; either LLMs are sharing their specific hallucinations across users, or it's the same person with a completely different name for their system. If the latter, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. has already been moved to Chat GPTrash.
I think you know which one it is. Either way, I'm locking this.
I have no doubt that this is driven by an LLM, and it's nothing to do with emdashes. I'm not going to list all the tells in case LLMs learn from this to make their slop less detectable, but if anyone still doubts, do check out You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. of the guy's framework. Even the claim that "otolshade" was "a conceptual example to illustrate how the framework interprets functional roles of EVA words" sounds like the excuse an LLM gives when you challenge it on an error.
Funnily enough, we had someone here a few weeks ago whose LLM hallucinated "otolshade"; either LLMs are sharing their specific hallucinations across users, or it's the same person with a completely different name for their system. If the latter, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. has already been moved to Chat GPTrash.
I think you know which one it is. Either way, I'm locking this.
09-10-2025, 09:08 PM
User banned for dual account and repeated offenses.