16-06-2026, 12:09 PM
(16-06-2026, 11:03 AM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Focusing on the color annotations themselves again, there are some examples in the Italian manuscript Pierre shared in the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., namely near the end on f83v. [...] I find them somewhat similar in feel to those in the VM
Indeed they are remarkably similar. I would think that the Scribe copied that part of that plant from some herbal manuscript that was unpainted but had color annotations, like that manuscript that Pierre shared. Given his inferred skill level, it would not be surprising if he did not know what those letters were.
Quote:Marco has managed to figure out the expected colors for these coats of arms. [...]He is not sure exactly how "z" stands for blue, but there are several options.
Gemini says that in 14th century Old Venetian, Veronese, or Lombard the word for "blue" was often written "zurro" or "zuro", without the "a". Moreover, in that context the letter "a" would have meant "argento" = "silver" (or "white" in blazonry).
Gemini also says that "azzurro" (and Spanish "azul") derive from Arabic "lāzaward" = "lapis-lazuli", the mineral source of the "ultramarine" pigment. The "l-" was part of the root but was dropped when the word became naturalized in Italian and Spanish. Then the "a-" was dropped in some places. Perhaps because it was mistaken for the Arabic definite article...
All the best, --stolfi