The f67r2 suggestion sounds plausible. I haven't investigated this enough to say how strong this argument is. However one issue we also have here is that we are again dealing, it seems, with 2 cyclically ordered sets unless we can be confident of a common orientation.
Of significance is the certainty with which one can map a Voynichese word to a specific meaning and ideally a specific word assuming that meaning is the same in many different languages; obviously there are words such as names of places, people of things which may be the same in many different languages and there are words that translate quite differently in many languages.
Rene said:
"But it even gets better. D'Imperio's figure shows that the majority of these names start with an 'a'. In You are not allowed to view links.
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Login to view. the majority starts with Eva-o or Eva-y. There are three or so that start with 's' and there are also three or so in the MS that start with Eva-s."
This is the spot to hit! Since there are so few candidates involved, it will be "relatively" easy to see if any correspondence can be established. What are the 's' words? What is the language? What are the VMs vords! If someone can post the data, we can all take a shot at it.
Also, what is the placement pattern of each diagram? Can the words/vords be positioned to overlap? That would be nice.
It comes down to being able to produce a reliable set of one to one mappings from Voynichese ideally to specific text. The confidence that one can have in the reliability of the crib makes all the difference. When there are many possible mappings for each Voynichese word then the usefulness as a crib is greatly reduced.
Below are the names of the mansions of the moon according to D'Imperio. However these don't seem to be quite the same as the other namings. Ideally really what we need is a contemporary central European(or multiple) Mansions of the Moon illustration, so as to better establish the precise namings.
Many of them are very similar, but some are different.
So, that's four in a row on Picatrix. And if "Sa'd" => "Chad", which seems possible, it's four in a row for Agrippa.
What's the VMs arrangement. Is there another column? The chart goes off the page.
There are still lots of other cribs.
In the majority of old illustrated herbals, the first word in the description / recipe of the herb is the name of the plant. This is the main reason why people have been trying to identify the plants drawn in the MS. This would provide a good crib for each herb.
There are just a few cases where the herb name seems to have been written near the herb, most notoriously on f41v, which was used by Stephen Bax.
Then there are all the star names on f68r1 and f68r2, but these are more difficult because we dont have any indication which star is meant in each case.
Next are the labels in the pharme section, near each of the small plant fragments.
My single favourite crib is the
dairal or
dairol on You are not allowed to view links.
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Then there is the
ios an on (or similar - barely legible) on one leaf of f2r, which we could expect to mean 'green'.
Thus, in the case of plants, the corollary word could also be significant. From the German application the word would be with plants "wurz".
From plants like, hazelwort, houseleek, roofwort. etc. Haselwurz, Hauswurz, Dachwurz
Which is possibly equated in the Latin "herba".
So without the addition "wurz" would get a completely different meaning. Roof, house, hazel. Dach, Haus, Hasel ( nuss )
If that moon-chart is as good a crib as one can get, then things are seriously off on the wrong foot as far as the comparative patterns of the names in the sequences. Four in a row is an unmistakable pattern in the traditional listings, but the VMs is different. The vords in the inner ring, roughly 5 o'clock, consist of two EVA 's' vords, two *non* 's' vords, and then a single "s' vord.
There is some proximity. There is some pairing, but clearly not a fully positive indicator.
Or could this be a indication that four in a row is just too darn obvious?
Struggling with these cribs is probably one of the main things that people have been doing in the first 50 or so years of Voynich MS decoding.
It will require some thinking out of the box, if there is anything to be found at all.