(21-09-2022, 02:40 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If I understand correctly, ethnobothany is all about the relation of plants to humans, the study of how people use plants. Why could not that be applied to 15th century?
What I mean is how to bridge from Germanic Paganism to a manuscript that can be proven to have been written in the early 15th century. Matarese moves here presumably from the Bronze Age to the early Middle Ages. I can't verify this because the chapter is not in the preview. But it is in any case a long way to the representation and application of plants from 1404 on. Theoretically, of course, this is something that ethnobotany can do. How that is done would be interesting to read.
In the wiki for "ethnobotany", there's this sentence:
"In 1732 Carl Linnaeus carried out a research expedition in Scandinavia asking the Sami people about their ethnological usage of plants."
I think that's the kind of ethnobotany we're probably looking at. Not going to pay to find out though.
(21-09-2022, 03:57 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Not going to pay to find out though.
I will not buy the book either (at most as a cheap Kindle edition if available). My gut feeling (based on the table of contents) tells me that it is not really worth it.
@Koen: Nothing against Carl Linnaeus, we owe him a large number of plant identifications that are still valid today.
His work helped me a lot in my last research.
(21-09-2022, 02:40 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If I understand correctly, ethnobothany is all about the relation of plants to humans, the study of how people use plants. Why could not that be applied to 15th century?
Here is a very fine ethnobotanical study of the herb tradition of the Ladin people in South Tyrol:
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"Worldwide mountain regions are recognized as hotspots of ethnopharmacologically relevant species diversity. In South Tyrol (Southern Alps, Italy), due to the region’s high plant diversity and isolated population, a unique traditional botanical knowledge of medicinal plants has flourished, which traces its history back to prehistoric times.”
As I have previously posted, I'm of the opinion the northern Italian Ladin herbal tradition is relevant to the Voynich MS. The tradition is routinely overlooked in mainstream herbalism but is of great interest in ethnobotanical studies where, as far as I can tell, the only research is being done.
Hello,
thanks for quoting my work.
I graduated in Foreign Languages and Literatures. I know Italian, English, French, Spanish, German, Swedish and a little Norwegian, currently studying Finnish and Icelandic.
I've been a translator and a Professor both of English and French, now contract Professor at the Università degli Studi di Bari, Apulia, teaching Phytoalimurgy and Ethnobotany.
You would mainly find my works as published books and my magazine (so not Academia or alike). Everything on the internet can be easily stolen and copyright is paramount. Many suggestions are in my public posts, mixed in other texts dealing with edible species and particularly folklore.
I've been studying the Beinecke 408 manuscript for 30 years now, and I have transliterated the folio 116v, which is the main core in this publication (
Nymðe + The Unearthing +).
It is a long book because I needed to delve into the introduction and the basis to explain more about the transliteration of most of the manuscript in the second volume, upcoming. There some reference to some words in the manuscript which have been transliterated too.
The term [font=arial, sans-serif]seiðr is a reference to what in many ways emerges through the script and the illustration in the manuscript.[/font]
[font=arial, sans-serif]I deal with the Beinecke 408 manuscript as a work of art first, then analyse history, context, similarities, suggestions. For me it is fundamental to look at the work as a whole, and I do not agree with those trying to find a "key" just as if it's a modern app or something. We need to change our mind and shift to a, let's say, 15th century mind. It is a multi-level approach and my contribution is a step to start walking in this direction.
We need paleographists, archaeologists, botanists.[/font]
[font=arial, sans-serif]As far as ethnobotany is concerned, in the upcoming second volume a complete explanation of all the vegetable species in the first, so-called "herbarium", will be provided. Also because those species are clearly named in the text of every "botanical representation".[/font]
[font=arial, sans-serif]Thank you again.[/font]
[font=arial, sans-serif]Have a good read.[/font]
(20-09-2022, 07:44 PM)pfeaster Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (20-09-2022, 06:55 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I hesitate to admit that I am not familiar with what seiðr is; as for the knowledge of our Ancestors, this is perhaps a bit trivial and hence not subject for disproval.
I didn't know the term seiðr eiðr, but it evidently refers to a form of iron-age Norse magic (see You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.). There's an Old English word nymðe meaning "except" or "unless" -- maybe this turns up in the proposed transliteration?
Hello Eleonora, and welcome to the forum!
Quote:Everything on the internet can be easily stolen and copyright is paramount.
No problem, in fact quite a number of VN participants adhere to the same viewpoint.
Quote:I have transliterated the folio 116v, which is the main core in this publication
The You are not allowed to view links.
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