The Voynich Ninja

Unique vords are certainly worth looking at. I think vords of five or more glyphs that have several repetitions would be indicative of potential ideological continuity.

(26-03-2022, 02:30 AM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.1974 and 37759 are, I guess, total vord counts? What are unique vord counts, is it possible to calculate?

yes 1974 and 37759 are Total vord counts.

If by 'unique vord count' you mean the vocabulary (each word counted once) then its 1008 and 8026 for Circular-text and all-text respectively.

But remember this and post#8 data is just a from a simplistic code run using TT transcription which does not include the Rosette folio and its also using my lazy code.

I think that repetition of longer vords (five or more glyphs) is also important. There is one example in the outer ring of White Aries. There's a lot of short words that are paired here also. No other text segment in the VMs Zodiac sequence is like this.

(26-03-2022, 02:39 PM)RobGea Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.yes 1974 and 37759 are Total vord counts.

If by 'unique vord count' you mean the vocabulary (each word counted once) then its 1008 and 8026 for Circular-text and all-text respectively.

So CT is 0,5 vocabulary to the total count, while non-CT is (8026-1008)/(37759-1974) = 0,2.

In other words, CT is much less repetitive.

How about mapping CT and non-CT against the Zipf-Mandelbrot curve, what do you think?

Sounds good, go for it.

Can you share the complete rankings please? In two sets, CT and non-CT, if possible. The set of total includes both CT and non-CT, so this would be looking at something messed up from the onset.

If it's not possible to provide rankings, just share the raw sets, I will build the rankings myself.

(23-05-2022, 02:10 AM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In other words, CT is much less repetitive.

The type-token ratio can only be compared for the same amount of tokens: try comparing a subset or MATTR.

True, but as I said I was going to plot it and interpolate it instead, and see what it looks like.

I have no idea what you're doing but go ahead. I am looking for ways in which the examples of circular text might be distinguished from the text from other locations.

The examples of circular text, particularly those set off by Stolfi's markers, certainly serve to denote these text segments in a 'physical' manor. So, does that differentiation extend to other aspects of a grammatical or literary or some other category? Does distinctive vocabulary from selected text segments appear elsewhere?

The marked text segments are scattered from the cosmic wheel to VMs zodiac to the central rosette. The existence of such structure is either accidental or intentional. The intention is either meaningful or distractive. How can it be dismissed without serious investigation?

The intentional connection between one of Stolfi's marker and a certain nymph on VMs White Aries is a historical and heraldic indication of the complexity involved in VMs interpretation. A complexity that is not accidental, but one that was built in.

Hi Anton,
2 files of ranked word frequency, 1 for text in Circles, 1 for all text except text in Circles

Data from ZL_ivtff_2a.txt   ( Note: previous data was from TT Transcription )
Any errors are mine.

Circular text data:[attachment=6563]

All data excluding Circular text:[attachment=6564]