09-08-2021, 03:57 AM
On You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. there are two vords written on a leaf, half way down the right hand side. Right up against the trimming; it is possible that a glyph might have been trimmed away here.
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You would expect such an annotation to be one of three things:
Let us look at the instruction.
yto ailch
yto appears five times (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.):
What if we separate the suffix ch? ch appears as a suffix You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in the text. It is unusual as a suffix - it either appears as a difficult word (chfaikch etc) or as a unique / almost-unique vord. IE, lkch You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.; lk You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..
Can ch be a stand-alone word? It appears You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. as a vord.
Therefore, I treat ch as another vord and continue.
ail likewise You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (drop the ch), all in the text heavy section at the back:
ch has You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. Yes I am aware there is an argument for saying that ch by itself is nothing but a pre/suffix that the scribe didn't join up and so the transcriber assumed it was a vord, but we can also postulate that it is a floating modifier (which fits in with its function as a pre/suffix).
In theory, if this is an instruction, one vord will be a verb (predicate) and the other will be a noun (subject).
I started by assuming that there were two vords - it now appears likely there are three vords. We thus have a noun, verb and modifier (subject, predicate).
Given that yto appears in a label on f67r1 and twice at the beginning of a line, and ail always appears in the middle of sentences, we can assume (for a thought experiment) that yto is the noun. Futhermore, the well-know attributes of ch (acting as a common prefix suffix) lends itself to it being a modifier.
Noun: yto
Verb: ail
Adverb: ch
Imagine this says something like "leaf paint not" or "plant venomous much" or "Joe ate, dead [now]".
But we must leave any attempt at translation to one side for the minute. Already, my assignation of noun, verb and adverb is nothing but supposition and hearsay.
QUESTION & NEXT TASK: Are there similar examples of apparent "instructions" (not labels) elsewhere that can be examined in a similar fashion? Although we cannot expect a translation from this approach, if other "instructions" appear to follow the same N_V_A approach, it could be a crib towards identifying possible underlying language families.
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You would expect such an annotation to be one of three things:
- Scribal instruction (green leaves; smooth edge; out of paint; etc)
- Plant name
- Plant characteristic (poisonous leaves;good for nausea; etc)
Let us look at the instruction.
yto ailch
yto appears five times (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.):
- f1r: daicthy [line break] yto shol daicthy yto shol
- f37v: chocthey [line break] yto chol chocthey yto chol
- f67r1: yto daiir (label?) yto daiir
- f67r2: yteoor yto ykor yteoor yto ykor
- f69v: chese yto odair chese yto odair
What if we separate the suffix ch? ch appears as a suffix You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in the text. It is unusual as a suffix - it either appears as a difficult word (chfaikch etc) or as a unique / almost-unique vord. IE, lkch You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.; lk You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..
Can ch be a stand-alone word? It appears You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. as a vord.
Therefore, I treat ch as another vord and continue.
ail likewise You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (drop the ch), all in the text heavy section at the back:
- f105r: dor ail cheky
- f105v: okeed ail kchey
- f106v: chodar ail dal dar
- f108r: ar ail odaiin
- f115v: shor ail chodaiin
ch has You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. Yes I am aware there is an argument for saying that ch by itself is nothing but a pre/suffix that the scribe didn't join up and so the transcriber assumed it was a vord, but we can also postulate that it is a floating modifier (which fits in with its function as a pre/suffix).
- f68v1: okeey ch ek chekeys
- f72r3: okar ch ches
- f76r: fchedy ch sal
- f100r: cthdaoto ch qeos
- f108r: qokar ch okeey
In theory, if this is an instruction, one vord will be a verb (predicate) and the other will be a noun (subject).
I started by assuming that there were two vords - it now appears likely there are three vords. We thus have a noun, verb and modifier (subject, predicate).
Given that yto appears in a label on f67r1 and twice at the beginning of a line, and ail always appears in the middle of sentences, we can assume (for a thought experiment) that yto is the noun. Futhermore, the well-know attributes of ch (acting as a common prefix suffix) lends itself to it being a modifier.
Noun: yto
Verb: ail
Adverb: ch
Imagine this says something like "leaf paint not" or "plant venomous much" or "Joe ate, dead [now]".
But we must leave any attempt at translation to one side for the minute. Already, my assignation of noun, verb and adverb is nothing but supposition and hearsay.
QUESTION & NEXT TASK: Are there similar examples of apparent "instructions" (not labels) elsewhere that can be examined in a similar fashion? Although we cannot expect a translation from this approach, if other "instructions" appear to follow the same N_V_A approach, it could be a crib towards identifying possible underlying language families.