The Voynich Ninja

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You're beginning to see the problem

Heheheh yeah

And, dodging the question again, how would you express this in any transliteration system?

Yeah, that is of course the real question. I say EVA because it's the one we all use. But how do we express this at all?

(28-01-2021, 03:58 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.From You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

I've spent a lot of time looking at the VMS text, four transcripts (one of which is also a concordance), I'm familiar with the different hands and the way they write specific characters, and I find this less difficult than some sections. Here is how I would interpret this in EVA.

The first character is rounded. It's not r. The one before ain is a little harder to be sure, it might be s or r. The last round one might be "a" but I am leaning toward "o" based on looking at so many chars and because I think the line belongs to the descender of the character above. The others are more clear than in many parts of the manuscript. So I think this is one of these possibilities:

s or chy r ain or
s or chy s ain or

[font=Eva]s or chy s/r ain ar[/font]


If the VMS were only a paragraph or a page, we would be in trouble. But it's 30,000+ tokens. There are enough clear ones to figure out what is going on... I think.

To me, the four s/r glyphs form a continuum from c-with tail to minim-with tail, in the order 1, 3, 2, 4. 
The first circle is clearly "o". The second is clearly EVA-a built from an i-minim. The second one is built like an o, but it connects at the bottom.

I accept that this line is probably relatively easy. Here's the problem though:

s or chy s ain or (JKP)
s or chy s ain ar (ZL)
s os chy sain or (voynichese.com)

That's three differences between ZL and voynichese.com in a simple, tiny line of text. What does this mean for the MS as a whole?

Plautus, Pseudulus 21-30

Edit: There is a translation in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

These might not be the best examples, they are ones I could grab quickly, but they give a sense of how much variation occurs when the two strokes of EVA-o do not match up perfectly.

The main reason I think these are "o" rather than "a" is that there is no straight stem on the right and the top-right loop is rounded:



Some are questionable, like 82r. In the cases where I couldn't tell, I included both variations in the transcript.


For comparison, some examples of Eva-a: