27-12-2020, 08:11 AM
This post will describe the diagram at the bottom of f82v as depicting the Alboran Sea.
![[Image: DoubleRainbow82v.png]](https://voynichportal.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/DoubleRainbow82v.png)
![[Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSe89z5I8e2a2NXdoYZuHX...A&usqp=CAU]](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSe89z5I8e2a2NXdoYZuHXkS3rZgfD-nqvFlA&usqp=CAU)
The most baffling part of this diagram is the imagery on the far right, so i will start there. I believe it stands for the Balearic sea. It shows that waters from it go toward the Alboran sea, (the pond the green water lines flow to), which is correct, that is how the current flows in that vicinity. The knobby bit to the far right is directly across from a pokey point on the shore. This is one of the Balearic islands, across from Valencia the kingdom, which takes up the pointy point. Note the blue dot, that is the location of Valencia the municipality. So basically it is only showing the Ibiza channel to represent the whole Balearic sea. This map shows exactly the area this nebuly line indicates, and i also believe that the use of blue here is indicative of being able to see the other shore, (f80r poke in the eye establishes this, and these pages are connected, which i will get into later.) Both the cloudband and the use of blue is of alternate meaning than usual, as it is not a river or cloud vapour here.
![[Image: Map-of-the-Ibiza-Channel-To-the-right-po...s-from.ppm]](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mcarmen_Garcia-Martinez2/publication/334884211/figure/fig25/AS:787409507729413@1564744464540/Map-of-the-Ibiza-Channel-To-the-right-position-of-the-multidisciplinary-stations-from.ppm)
![[Image: okoe89_f82v1.png]](https://voynichattacks.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/okoe89_f82v1.png)
![[Image: 220px-Mar_Balear_delineada.jpg]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/Mar_Balear_delineada.jpg/220px-Mar_Balear_delineada.jpg)
![[Image: balearic.gif]](https://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/balearic.gif)
Even today, the demarcations between seas are not always agreed upon. However, like both current examples, in the vms the Balearic seems not to extend south of the islands, so it actually affects the greater Mediterranean sea, and not the Alboran directly. But the Mediterranean was left out of the vms representation, and not coloured, i think to obscure and make it look more like a pond with a weird octopus doing something to it. Unless you know what you are looking at, then all the mnemonics start to make sense.
They did not include the Gibraltar strait as part of the Alboran Sea, which also makes it look more like a pond. I tend to agree though that the sea ends at Gibralar/Ceuta. The strait is simply the remains of where the Atlantic broke through into the Alboran/Mediterranean, the strait was not a part of the sea before that happened.
[font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Can you see it?[/font]
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[font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]The nymphs are Malaga, Grenada, and Almeria, which stand for the regions or provinces to which their names apply.[/font]
[font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]The double rainbows are river valleys. [/font]The tube is an estuary as it is coloured green, which means saltwater or otherwise mineralized water, but there is blue freshwater moving through it. Silt is shown to indicate these rivers are not as navigable as they were during the height of use in Roman and Phoenician times.
[font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Why does Granada not have a barrel to stand in? Because those are sheltered ports, and Granada is usually thought of as being located within the river systems, not at the deltas. Later portolans show it like this[/font]
![[Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbLg7dndPIoZxeYKvvZV7...A&usqp=CAU]](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbLg7dndPIoZxeYKvvZV7X8hExpg_ny0v9BA&usqp=CAU)
![[Image: dae-a2005584.jpg]](https://previews.agefotostock.com/previewimage/medibigoff/27f79a4b6f9df832aa907541a8056653/dae-a2005584.jpg)
![[Image: Map_of_Granada_by_Piri_Reis_15th_century.jpg]](https://www.alrahalah.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Map_of_Granada_by_Piri_Reis_15th_century.jpg)
In the Piri Reis (third) example there are 5 rivers on the shore, Malaga (Guadiara river) on the left, 2 rivers for Granada, the Almeria (Andarax) River and the Almanzora River/estuary on the right, the same as being shown in the vms, albeit quite differently. You could see from the other 2 examples where the rainbow shapes come from, the Guardiana river valley and others. And you can see why the rivers would drain on both sides, because they don't actually have the same source, just close by. The Catalan atlas of the 14th century also shows the same rivers but it is more triangular in shape, many other examples exist for centuries back where these two valleys are featured.
Malaga and Granada are touching because Malaga the municipality was at that point part of the kingdom of Granada until 1487. But Malaga is one of the oldest continuously inhabited cities in the world and as such has its own distinct history, albeit some of its history is lost, indicated by the nymph not touching the arm to the back.
When nymphs hold their arms behind them and away from their back, i believe it means they suffered a defeat or a catastrophe that affected the population. The higher they hold them, the more recent. It is interesting to note that in 1436 there was a defeat of Muslims by Murcians in the Almanzorga area. Or maybe it refers to flooding. When the river segment is held aloft, i believe it means the river rises. The Almanzora is known to swell and flood periodically today, it is reasonable to think it would have also done so in the past. Aha, the Romans called it the Surbo, meaning superb, after its great floods, so there you go. I love it that i knew it from the vms before i looked it up, happens all the time.
You can almost see the analogous point in the African shoreline but as it is not completely painted, that may be a happy accident. Then again, i do not believe it is necessarily an accident when the paint doesn't match the lines. Lots of obfuscation going on.
In terms of the ordering of the folios, this one is a little problematic due to the fact that it seems to be a revisiting of the area that was skipped between You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (the beginning) and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (the second page page), plus it provides some more detail regarding f80r. It makes sense to me as a final obfuscation once the rest is in order. It still counts as contiguous, as we are actually by this page repeating the journey to Azov for the second trip around the world. A repeat that doesn't repeat anything exactly but says it in new ways to fill in information not given the first time around.
The You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. connection is that the Balearic Sea component is a repeat of the beginning part of the shoreline on f80r.
![[Image: okoe89_f82v1.png]](https://voynichattacks.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/okoe89_f82v1.png)
![[Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBnBxLkrdJ2OaWzklp4fe...g&usqp=CAU]](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBnBxLkrdJ2OaWzklp4feF2bVVKqEmBrBPcg&usqp=CAU)
![[Image: distance-from-cartagena-spain-to-valencia-spain.png]](https://www.distantias.com/maps/distance-from-cartagena-spain-to-valencia-spain.png)
![[Image: Kingdom_of_Valencia_map.png]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/Kingdom_of_Valencia_map.png)
The right hand nymph is Valencia. See the funny triangle thingie at her ankles? It is the same as the funny triangle point across from the Balearic Islands, except this time it is sort of 3d, coming at you. She looks somewhat like the kingdom she represents. The arm behind her but touching her back like that means to me that her history is intact, there probably exist rutters for sailing in the vicinity as well. Also the direction they have her facing makes that elbow echo the point, the negative space in the crook of her arm is triangular also. The waving hand also echos the shape of the kingdom and also signifies readiness to do business with travellers. It is held in front of her which means there is recent prosperity and indeed this turns out to be the case, after dealing with the plague in the 14th century, the 15th was prosperous with regard to Genoese merchants restarting the local silk trade. There it is again, the vms told me, then i looked it up and found out the details.
Cartagena and Murcia are the other two nymphs. The next nymph, not shown here, is Barcelona. Notice Murcia shows the least forward leg as she is farthest inland. Valencia has the triangle at her feet rather than to her left, as she stands for the kingdom of Valencia, not the municipality, and the kingdom includes the point. All in all, taken together, there are enough mnemonics to properly draw the eastern Spanish shore in addition to the Andelusian coast that can more easily be discerned.
But not only geography is included, history of the places is also signified by the nymphs.
Murcia's spindle is empty, pointing behind her, the direction of her journey. Her spindle is a match to the one on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. combined with the nymph in the top right corner throwing spray, i think the spindles say here is an alternate way to go, by river instead of by sea. But it took a long time, used up the life thread. It may also signify that the population is made up of immigrants, as she doesn't touch her back which means a part of the history is lost. Murcia's other hand raised behind her is likely due to the fighting with Granada, which caused continual downfall from the 13th century until Granada fell in 1492.
Cartagena's arms are low behind her, signifying longterm downfall. I just checked, and they had gone through many hands over time, and there were familial power struggles at the time of the vms that were not solved until late 15th century.
I think i have covered everything in the diagram and more, let me know if there is something i can explain further or better in order for you to see it as i do, or, show me the error of my ways, i would be interested in whether and or why you do or do not see it as i do given this outline. Thanks for reading.
![[Image: DoubleRainbow82v.png]](https://voynichportal.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/DoubleRainbow82v.png)
The most baffling part of this diagram is the imagery on the far right, so i will start there. I believe it stands for the Balearic sea. It shows that waters from it go toward the Alboran sea, (the pond the green water lines flow to), which is correct, that is how the current flows in that vicinity. The knobby bit to the far right is directly across from a pokey point on the shore. This is one of the Balearic islands, across from Valencia the kingdom, which takes up the pointy point. Note the blue dot, that is the location of Valencia the municipality. So basically it is only showing the Ibiza channel to represent the whole Balearic sea. This map shows exactly the area this nebuly line indicates, and i also believe that the use of blue here is indicative of being able to see the other shore, (f80r poke in the eye establishes this, and these pages are connected, which i will get into later.) Both the cloudband and the use of blue is of alternate meaning than usual, as it is not a river or cloud vapour here.
![[Image: okoe89_f82v1.png]](https://voynichattacks.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/okoe89_f82v1.png)
![[Image: 220px-Mar_Balear_delineada.jpg]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/Mar_Balear_delineada.jpg/220px-Mar_Balear_delineada.jpg)
![[Image: balearic.gif]](https://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/balearic.gif)
Even today, the demarcations between seas are not always agreed upon. However, like both current examples, in the vms the Balearic seems not to extend south of the islands, so it actually affects the greater Mediterranean sea, and not the Alboran directly. But the Mediterranean was left out of the vms representation, and not coloured, i think to obscure and make it look more like a pond with a weird octopus doing something to it. Unless you know what you are looking at, then all the mnemonics start to make sense.
They did not include the Gibraltar strait as part of the Alboran Sea, which also makes it look more like a pond. I tend to agree though that the sea ends at Gibralar/Ceuta. The strait is simply the remains of where the Atlantic broke through into the Alboran/Mediterranean, the strait was not a part of the sea before that happened.
[font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Can you see it?[/font]
![[Image: Alboran-Sea-1030x721.jpg]](https://www.marinemammalhabitat.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Alboran-Sea-1030x721.jpg)
![[Image: DoubleRainbow82v.png]](https://voynichportal.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/DoubleRainbow82v.png)
[font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]The nymphs are Malaga, Grenada, and Almeria, which stand for the regions or provinces to which their names apply.[/font]
[font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]The double rainbows are river valleys. [/font]The tube is an estuary as it is coloured green, which means saltwater or otherwise mineralized water, but there is blue freshwater moving through it. Silt is shown to indicate these rivers are not as navigable as they were during the height of use in Roman and Phoenician times.
[font=Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Why does Granada not have a barrel to stand in? Because those are sheltered ports, and Granada is usually thought of as being located within the river systems, not at the deltas. Later portolans show it like this[/font]
![[Image: dae-a2005584.jpg]](https://previews.agefotostock.com/previewimage/medibigoff/27f79a4b6f9df832aa907541a8056653/dae-a2005584.jpg)
![[Image: Map_of_Granada_by_Piri_Reis_15th_century.jpg]](https://www.alrahalah.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Map_of_Granada_by_Piri_Reis_15th_century.jpg)
In the Piri Reis (third) example there are 5 rivers on the shore, Malaga (Guadiara river) on the left, 2 rivers for Granada, the Almeria (Andarax) River and the Almanzora River/estuary on the right, the same as being shown in the vms, albeit quite differently. You could see from the other 2 examples where the rainbow shapes come from, the Guardiana river valley and others. And you can see why the rivers would drain on both sides, because they don't actually have the same source, just close by. The Catalan atlas of the 14th century also shows the same rivers but it is more triangular in shape, many other examples exist for centuries back where these two valleys are featured.
Malaga and Granada are touching because Malaga the municipality was at that point part of the kingdom of Granada until 1487. But Malaga is one of the oldest continuously inhabited cities in the world and as such has its own distinct history, albeit some of its history is lost, indicated by the nymph not touching the arm to the back.
When nymphs hold their arms behind them and away from their back, i believe it means they suffered a defeat or a catastrophe that affected the population. The higher they hold them, the more recent. It is interesting to note that in 1436 there was a defeat of Muslims by Murcians in the Almanzorga area. Or maybe it refers to flooding. When the river segment is held aloft, i believe it means the river rises. The Almanzora is known to swell and flood periodically today, it is reasonable to think it would have also done so in the past. Aha, the Romans called it the Surbo, meaning superb, after its great floods, so there you go. I love it that i knew it from the vms before i looked it up, happens all the time.
You can almost see the analogous point in the African shoreline but as it is not completely painted, that may be a happy accident. Then again, i do not believe it is necessarily an accident when the paint doesn't match the lines. Lots of obfuscation going on.
In terms of the ordering of the folios, this one is a little problematic due to the fact that it seems to be a revisiting of the area that was skipped between You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (the beginning) and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (the second page page), plus it provides some more detail regarding f80r. It makes sense to me as a final obfuscation once the rest is in order. It still counts as contiguous, as we are actually by this page repeating the journey to Azov for the second trip around the world. A repeat that doesn't repeat anything exactly but says it in new ways to fill in information not given the first time around.
The You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. connection is that the Balearic Sea component is a repeat of the beginning part of the shoreline on f80r.
![[Image: okoe89_f82v1.png]](https://voynichattacks.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/okoe89_f82v1.png)
![[Image: distance-from-cartagena-spain-to-valencia-spain.png]](https://www.distantias.com/maps/distance-from-cartagena-spain-to-valencia-spain.png)
![[Image: Kingdom_of_Valencia_map.png]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/Kingdom_of_Valencia_map.png)
The right hand nymph is Valencia. See the funny triangle thingie at her ankles? It is the same as the funny triangle point across from the Balearic Islands, except this time it is sort of 3d, coming at you. She looks somewhat like the kingdom she represents. The arm behind her but touching her back like that means to me that her history is intact, there probably exist rutters for sailing in the vicinity as well. Also the direction they have her facing makes that elbow echo the point, the negative space in the crook of her arm is triangular also. The waving hand also echos the shape of the kingdom and also signifies readiness to do business with travellers. It is held in front of her which means there is recent prosperity and indeed this turns out to be the case, after dealing with the plague in the 14th century, the 15th was prosperous with regard to Genoese merchants restarting the local silk trade. There it is again, the vms told me, then i looked it up and found out the details.
Cartagena and Murcia are the other two nymphs. The next nymph, not shown here, is Barcelona. Notice Murcia shows the least forward leg as she is farthest inland. Valencia has the triangle at her feet rather than to her left, as she stands for the kingdom of Valencia, not the municipality, and the kingdom includes the point. All in all, taken together, there are enough mnemonics to properly draw the eastern Spanish shore in addition to the Andelusian coast that can more easily be discerned.
But not only geography is included, history of the places is also signified by the nymphs.
Murcia's spindle is empty, pointing behind her, the direction of her journey. Her spindle is a match to the one on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. combined with the nymph in the top right corner throwing spray, i think the spindles say here is an alternate way to go, by river instead of by sea. But it took a long time, used up the life thread. It may also signify that the population is made up of immigrants, as she doesn't touch her back which means a part of the history is lost. Murcia's other hand raised behind her is likely due to the fighting with Granada, which caused continual downfall from the 13th century until Granada fell in 1492.
Cartagena's arms are low behind her, signifying longterm downfall. I just checked, and they had gone through many hands over time, and there were familial power struggles at the time of the vms that were not solved until late 15th century.
I think i have covered everything in the diagram and more, let me know if there is something i can explain further or better in order for you to see it as i do, or, show me the error of my ways, i would be interested in whether and or why you do or do not see it as i do given this outline. Thanks for reading.