16-09-2018, 01:10 PM
I'm still on the go but I'll just try to paste from my phone the second mail I just received from prof. Saurma. Formatting hers
. She says I can request images from the MS so if there are any requests I'll pass them on. When I get home I will ask her opinion about our crossed arms conundrum.
Dear Mr. Gheuens,
Thanks for your mail. As far as the lion is concerned, I always assumed that some knowledge of oriental textiles could be known.
In my attachment you can find the panthier of Stuttgart. Please let me know if you need other animals illustrated in this manuscript.
The problem of a common source for Lauber and Ms Beinecke 408 is Buch der Natur Cpg 311, that is located in a totally different region as you surely know. Even the illustrations have no direct connection to Alsatian painting or I don’t see it. Spyra has showed a close relationship between Cpg. 311 and Cod. D. 684 in Michelstadt and a lost manuscript in Erbach. These 3 codices form a group due to their textual and programmatic similiarities. Indeed Spyra sees also some related motives in the some illustrations of Cpg 311 and the Lauber examples.
In fact all Megenberg – in a special way Stuttgart – are based on very different sources for their illustrations, so it is very convincing if you construct a a common source for your comparable examples. Bit I am not sure if either Lauber or the illuminators of Cpg 311 could have used a model of a wholly illustrated Megenberg. Lauber, I presume, was working on such a model book for his atelier. In fact I would accept a common source not for the illustrations of Laubers Megenberg as a whole but for several examples or parts of the book.
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All the best

Dear Mr. Gheuens,
Thanks for your mail. As far as the lion is concerned, I always assumed that some knowledge of oriental textiles could be known.
In my attachment you can find the panthier of Stuttgart. Please let me know if you need other animals illustrated in this manuscript.
The problem of a common source for Lauber and Ms Beinecke 408 is Buch der Natur Cpg 311, that is located in a totally different region as you surely know. Even the illustrations have no direct connection to Alsatian painting or I don’t see it. Spyra has showed a close relationship between Cpg. 311 and Cod. D. 684 in Michelstadt and a lost manuscript in Erbach. These 3 codices form a group due to their textual and programmatic similiarities. Indeed Spyra sees also some related motives in the some illustrations of Cpg 311 and the Lauber examples.
In fact all Megenberg – in a special way Stuttgart – are based on very different sources for their illustrations, so it is very convincing if you construct a a common source for your comparable examples. Bit I am not sure if either Lauber or the illuminators of Cpg 311 could have used a model of a wholly illustrated Megenberg. Lauber, I presume, was working on such a model book for his atelier. In fact I would accept a common source not for the illustrations of Laubers Megenberg as a whole but for several examples or parts of the book.
[url=https://maps.google.com/?q=Seminarstrasse+4+%0D%0A+69117+Heidelberg&entry=gmail&source=g][/url]
All the best